Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

I Believe I Have A Scott 595 Stamp But Need Expert Opinion

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 7,432Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add TJA1523 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was looking for an Scott 579 stamps but came across this stamp. I've had to re-write my title and start over several times, so if it seemed a bold statement thats why. It may certainly be a 554C I dont know. Im not findin much on 554C. I'm going to include as many pictures as the site will allow. The stamp measures 11 X 11perfs, its wide over 19.25. I have an 554 I asked about several months ago Im comparing it with. So you'll see a smaller stamp pair , that is the 554 based on Stamp Community. Treina







Send note to Staff

Rest in Peace
United States
920 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are partially correct! It is a 554C. As it is perf 11 and has two straight edges it must be a booklet stamp.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper123
Thanks again. I'll research 554C more. I figured the straight edges meant alot to the identifying but I was not sure. Treina
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
6355 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is about 1/4 perf out of alignment at the bottom of the gauge and also about 1/4 perf out of alignment at the top - in different directions. I think you will find a better match at 10 1/2 for the side perforations and thus you have a Scott 634d booklet single instead.

As a caution to Caper123's reply, 554 is flat plate printing and both sheet stamps and booklet stamps of 554 can have the same two adjacent straight edges similar to each other. Straight edges mean different things in different eras and on different stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for observations folks! I tried a different gauge to help me. I just cant squeeze the side into a 10 1/2, 10, 11 1/2. The closest is 11. This is a time I wished I had local Stamp Collectors.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6664 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what perf measuring tool you are using but for US stamps the preferred gauge for specialists can be found here;

http://www.slingshotvenus.com/stamp...tyPerf5.html
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is a gauge! Need to add that to my list. I have a small one.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer
Thanks for website! I forgot to say in my previous post.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
6355 Posts
Posted 08/01/2017   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Instead of using a gauge, use another stamp of known perforation rate. Specifically, how do the sides align against one of the 1932 Washington bicentennials or one of the 1938 Presidentials? They are both perf 10.5 along the sides.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
98 Posts
Posted 08/02/2017   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add diane to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you have to have a PHD for that precision gauge. but I do see it comes with a PDF instruction sheet.
Since this has come highly recommended, I am going to buy one, I have the basic one but I started a huge project with my stamps and only want to check each stamp once (since I have over 15,000 stamps to do something with)

thank you
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
1273 Posts
Posted 08/02/2017   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Stallzer pointed out, for better accuracy in measuring perforations, using the Kiusalas Specialty Gauge is recommended. The Sonic Imagery Labs Precision U.S. Specialty Multi-Gauge is a good tool for this purpose. Perf. gauges use millimeter increments and the perforation production process used linear increments; which the Kiusalas gauge also uses. Post production issues such as paper shrinkage may effect perf. gauge measurements, more so than with the Kiusalas gauge, making perf. measurement more uncertain to determine at times.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/02/2017   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the pointers. Thats what I need. I finally was able to measure the stamp against one of the Presidentials as John suggested. Still did not line up. I did try lining it up with an another stamp also that is an 11 X 11 to see if it would fit that stamp. See pics. Not sure what I'm looking at. I'm still in process of getting a Scott and all tools suggested, so keep your expertise coming.





Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
6355 Posts
Posted 08/02/2017   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to match 11x11 stamp better, I'll reverse my 634 opinion and agree you have a 554. The point being that Scott rounds the perf measurement to the nearest half, which can be confusing - especially without having the stamp in front of the rest of us. (Also scans are better than photos for us too.)
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/02/2017   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
J.B.
If only Stamps were like old treasure maps and X marked the spot. So,is that a 554C due to the wider version I have. My regular 554 is noticeably smaller. Just 2 more pictures to add to this post. Then, onward to the next stamps....




Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1414 Posts
Posted 08/03/2017   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Post production issues such as paper shrinkage may effect perf. gauge measurements, more so than with the Kiusalas gauge, making perf. measurement more uncertain to determine at times


Paper shrinkage occurs before gumming and perforating and will not affect the perforation spacing. Also, please keep in mind that a perforation gauge is not a measuring tool. It is a gauge that indicates the count of complete perforations between lines two centimeters apart.

The stamp showed by the OP is a 554c single. With few exceptions, US flat plate booklet pane stamps were printed on horizontal mesh (or grain) paper instead of the normal vertical mesh paper used for 400 subject sheet stamps to facilitate more accurate cutting of sheets into booklet panes. The resulting stamp is slightly wider and generally slightly shorter than a regular sheet stamp. A 595 on the other hand, was from rotary press coil waste. The plates were stretched to fit on the press cylinder. The resulting horizontal coil stamps were wider that flat plate stamps. The difference in width is larger than the small difference between flat plate booklet single and a sheet stamp.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by cfrphoto - 08/03/2017 4:21 pm
Valued Member
United States
125 Posts
Posted 08/03/2017   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TJA1523 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
554C! I will research that stamp then. Thank you all!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 7,432Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.23 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05