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Posted 09/18/2017   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
(If there is a better place for this question, please let me know.)

I have a good all-in-one printer/scanner that scans at a max of 600 dpi. There are times when I'd really like to get a higher resolution. Any suggestions? I'm seeing some inexpensive scanners that say they scan up to 4800 dpi but some reviews seem to indicate that they over-process the images and lose the original colors. e.g., Canon CanoScan LiDE220 that sells for about $80 bucks.

If that would really improve my stamp scans a lot it seems a pretty cheap way to go.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 09/18/2017   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I bought an Epson V37 last year for around $50 on ebay that will scan at 4800 DPI.
This year I think its V39 for the same. Great scanners.

Below is a Trial Color card proof, of the 90 cent Justice U.S. Scott # O34TCP4c. This is an Atlanta Trial Color. One of 5 colors. This one had a double transfer of the bottom of the portrait oval and the top to the 90. This is 10% of a 4800DPI scan. The detail is 4800DPI




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Posted 09/18/2017   4:45 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yup. Epson, Epson, Epson.

I prefer the V500/V550 higher tier of Epson scanners, personally, but you won't go wrong with the consumer line either.

Regardless if the actual scanner model you get, I reommend spending the $79 for Hamrick VueScan. It allows you to fine tune things much more so than most bundled software. Many bundled scanner software packages automaticaly ratchet up sharpening, brightness, and descreening out of the box, which can introduce all sorts of artifacts.
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Posted 09/18/2017   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure you only consider the 'optical' resolution of any scanner. This is the maximum resolution that a scanner can achieve without the 'help' of software. Scanner manufacturers will advertise much higher resolutions where they simply have the software enlarge the image. You can learn more about resolution here
http://www.stampsmarter.com/feature..._Images.html

I am interested in a flatbed scanner which also can do UV scanning. This one look interesting but cannot find a price (read as expensive)
http://www.chemeurope.com/en/produc...r2i-tlc.html
I may have to just rip apart an old consumer scanner and build my own UV flatbed.
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Posted 09/18/2017   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@LITTLERIVERPHIL, does the Epson v37 and v39 use optical resolution instead of software?

Your example of 10% seems a little blurred, is this normal? Is there any way to remove the blur?

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Posted 09/18/2017   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Like revenuecollector said - Epson. I have a V500 type and it's completed 10's of thousands of scans without issue. I had an older Canon CanoScan LiDE while back and hated it. It was too lightweight and would slide around at the lightest touch. It was a pain to use. I gave the thing away.
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Posted 09/18/2017   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the V600 and meets my needs.
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Posted 09/18/2017   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been using Epson scanners for years...i currently own the V500...highly recommended!
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Posted 09/18/2017   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Canon OU812 is excellent.
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Posted 09/18/2017   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Message received. Thanks all.
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Posted 09/18/2017   9:49 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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does the Epson v37 and v39 use optical resolution instead of software?

Your example of 10% seems a little blurred, is this normal? Is there any way to remove the blur?


All scanners have an optical resolution. Optical resolution is a description of how well an optical instrument can resolve small details. If you have something that is printed with a 400 Dots Per Inch (DPI) screen and your scanner only has 100 DPI resolution, it can not resolve the printing dots (they will blurr together).

To my eyes his "10%" scan is not blurry, rather it it the printing that is a little fuzzy.

Another issue you can get with poor quality optics is something caller chromatic aberration, which can cause false clors to appear at the edges of a feature)
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Posted 09/18/2017   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Yup. Epson, Epson, Epson.

I'll second that! I've used Canon and Epson scanners over the decades, and I've found Epson to be far better. Here is a scan of Austria #1057 acquired with an Epson Perfection V370 Photo scanner at 1200 DPI:

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Posted 09/19/2017   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rather than upgrade a scanner, you might investigate the USB microscopes that have been shown and used on SCF. There are ones cheaper than a better scanner and the results shown on the board here are impressive.

One problem I have just discovered with scanners, at least the one I have, is that there is enough UV output to cause tagged US stamps of the 1960s-1970s to glow with the tagging covering the stamp design in the scan.
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Posted 09/19/2017   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The detail is 4800DPI


Not unless you have a 4800 DPI monitor. DPI means nothing online. DPI is for printing.

Bet the house I can get just as good an image in a post here with my Canon camera in about 45 seconds.

I sold sports cards for years and scanned them. Anything over 600 DPI showed print dots not even visible to the naked eye. Why would you even want that? I got my camera and a few months later my scanner went in the trash, I was tired of it being in my way.

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Posted 09/20/2017   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course, the scanner resolution is only half of the story. The other is the degree to which the image file is compressed. Images should be scanned at "best quality" or no compression, particularly if saving as a JPEG file. Then, at least, you will be able to see the maximum detail on your home computer or on any computer, using this file. When uploading, you are limited to a file size of 200kb and this may your file to be compressed, with resulting artifacts and fuzziness of the image as seen in your post. TINSTAAFL.

Another thing to a void is changing the resolution of an image file to reduce image size. This is another source of artifacts and fuzziness. It is far better to rescan the original at a lower resolution.

As for scanner type, I have had products from four brands. To my mind, Epson is head and shoulders above the others for reasonably priced products.



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Of course, the scanner resolution is only half of the story. The other is the degree to which the image file is compressed. Images should be scanned at "best quality" or no compression, particularly if saving as a JPEG file. Then, at least, you will be able to see the maximum detail on your home computer or on any computer, using this file. When uploading, you are limited to a file size of 200kb and this may your file to be compressed, with resulting artifacts and fuzziness of the image as seen in your post. TINSTAAFL.
Another thing to a void is changing the resolution of an image file to reduce image size. This is another source of artifacts and fuzziness. It is far better to rescan the original at a lower resolution.


You're way over-analyzing this. Tell me, is thee anything wrong with this image? Can you see everything you need to see for the purposes of grading or anything else on this forum?

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