Rare Chinese Overprint Stamp Crown Colony

Hello, I cant find nothing about this overprinted chinese stamp, who can help me?


thanks

Chungking (Taiwan) print of 1945. I fear that this is just a bogus or private overprint.

Thanks for the answer, I have more stamps with that overprint. But I think the overprint is original, maybe private. Ill upload others

Do post more.

What is it exactly that makes you think it is original? "Crown colony" and that style of crown can only refer to a British colony. Do you know something historically that we don't?

Looks bogus to me ,not something found in any catalog .Looks like it was overprinted with a rubber stamp.

I too think that this is a 'bogus' issue. Still interesting and deserving a space in any China collection.

Chimo

Bujutsu

There was a prolific seller/forger on ebay in the early 2000's who created fake overprints on legitimate stamps as well as created modern fake perforate and imperforate blocks and sheets.

I was part of a group of collectors who tried to alert the stamp collecting public about this as well as try to get ebay to do something about it, among other forgeries problems in the stamp category. (We even went so far as to meet in person with ebay's category manager of stamps and felt we achieved some success at that meeting, but then within a couple of weeks he was promptly promoted into a larger category, and that essentially dried up those efforts.)

Unfortunately, this was during ebay's "you can't tell anything from a photo" period and he ran wild. His original ebay seller name was "atdinvest" (we called him "Addie"), and his products were called "Hialeah forgeries" by us (since that's where he was purported to be based).

I can't help but think that whenever someone finds a previously undiscovered and undocumented overprint on a stamp that it could be his work.

I have no idea whatever happened to him and his products, but here is a snapshot of events documented between 2001 and 2004 by another member of our concerned collectors group.

http://www.sheryll.net/Forgeries/Hi..._Hialeah.htm

The only large size British Crown overprints in that part of the world
are found on British India Straits Settlements.Now let's take a look a bit further.
pic 1 ,our intruder.
pic 2, forged Straits Settlements crown ovpt.
pic 3, authentic crown ovpt.S.S.
pic 4,5 complete stamps.

hello again, thanks to everybody for answers. I send you new picture.

Two different Crown Types! This is getting complicated....

All those CROWN overprints above are questionable ,I need to find a decent overprint in my collection to scan here .So we can see the details of a real one .
ATDINVEST ----Didn't do much with fake overprints on real stamps ,he did a few but ebay cracked him in the side of the head . Plus he had a hard time finding inventory of real stamps to make it a profitable enterprise .
He continued to develop what he called artistic creations of stamps . He made those in sheets of 50 or 20 stamps per sheet . He got a short term green light from ebay and he sold thousands of dollars of these "artistic creations" .
I got in trouble with all the people on the stamp chat board because a major point they argued to ebay and to anybody carrying a badge was that it was fooling newbies and beginner collectors . Their argument was dumb because I told those on the chat board,their underwear was too tight because evidence shown that those people were not newbie collectors but experience stamp dealers from the feedback page you could see that the buyers had feedback numbers in the high hundreds and many had thousands of transactions to their name .
Well that didn't sit well with that crowd of self-appointed philatelic keystone cops .ATDINVEST was invited and accepted to come on the chat board . I was the only one that welcomed him and told him ,it was nice art work and it really was interesting what you could do with a computer and a printer . The rest of the board was going nuts and banging their fist on their computer screens and would not listen or reply to him they just wanted to lynch him that day ,so he never came back .

Were they marked as 'Facsimiles'? (like stamped on the reverse)
Don

No --none of mine have any markings on them .

Here is a real crown overprint from my collection .

It finally dawned on me that these stamps were some type of propaganda
anti Taiwan.The stamps are from the 1930's on.Perhaps of Chinese origin
in their overprinting.Link too some more info here;
http://www.thatsmags.com/china/post...ld-have-been
https://books.google.fr/books?id=my...lony&f=false
The fact that Hong was returned too China; it was the perfect Chinese pretext
that Taiwan like Hong Kong should return too China....hence these propaganda
overprints.They may well be 20 years old or 50 years old....

perf12, Taiwan was a Japanese colony 1895-1945 with Japanese stamps being used during that time.

While Chinese troops were sent to Taiwan to occupy it after the war ended in 1945, Taiwan was still considered occupied Japanese territory by the Allies. Practically, this was until December 1949 when KMT refugees came in and took over, legally until 1952 when the United Nations Treaty was signed. This is the reason for different stamps being used in Taiwan 1945-1949.

If you meant the ROC/KMT government, it was retreating everywhere in the late 1940s, the time of most of the base stamps shown. Again, they didn't get to Taiwan until December 1949.

Anyone can take an older packet of 100 different China that would include these stamps and rubberstamp them with something. Further, I can think of several more believable scenarios similarly lacking any foundation. In the meantime your imagination is better spent on something like dEsencyclopedie (proper accents will not display here). The fan box would be more convincing over there.