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New Brunswick # 1 - 3d Red - Do You See A "28" Cancel ?

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Posted 12/30/2017   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Renden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This specimen is up for auction presently and advertised as a "28" St George Cancel RF 8 1854....thanks for any comment(s)
Rene
Happy New Year 2018 to all good friends of the Forum !


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Posted 12/30/2017   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have to look that hard and still cannot be sure of the numeral, usually it is better to pass. Just my friendly opinion. It is a constant challenge for cancel collectors looking for the rare ones.
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Posted 12/30/2017   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp Rene. Yepp I can see '28'. However because the postmark is that faint and almost unreadable, it is not very attractive for postmark collectors, hence the rarity factor of the postmark should in my opinion not affect the asking price much. It would still be cool to get such a rare postmark
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Posted 12/30/2017   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Thanks all and Jon included ! - I used all my software programs to get the number and was not impressed- but this dealer is # 1 in Canada ( ebay) so we shall see - a nice cancellation is probably worth 2-3X the estimated auction price. I agree.

One other item is the value of this # 1 New Brunswick - Unitrade puts it at $350 for a used Fine, $700 for a VF - This is an imperf stamp - This sellor never sold me "scrap" and it is refundable.

I will let you know next week and Thanks again !

Rene
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Posted 12/30/2017   8:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Here is a St. George #28 cancel on cover paying the 15 cent / 9d treaty rate to California. One of three recorded covers paying the 9d rate with pence issue stamps.
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Posted 12/31/2017   05:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SPQR - WOW - thats awesome! An additional WOW-factor is added by the mixed franking - 3c additional tax as postage due I presume?
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Posted 12/31/2017   07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand - the letter was initially addressed to Garrote [later known as Groveland] California. When the letter got to Garrote, the addressee, probably a gold miner, had moved to Sonora, California. The 3 cent stamp paid the US postage to forward the letter from Garrote to Sonora.
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Posted 12/31/2017   08:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Renden...I ran it quickly through one of my software programs and I definitely see a "28"

Robert



Here is mine..But I cant see any number..so sad.

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Posted 12/31/2017   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wert .....your software is better than mine (or I do not know how to use it !)

Rene
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Posted 12/31/2017   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



http://retroreveal.org/

RetroReveal, its free, splits color channels, its easy

Don
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Posted 12/31/2017   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Don - tried it on the stamp and documented the "28" cancel ! Great - wert had done so with his software
Keeping this link !

Rene

edit - I could not find how to save the results (tif format recommended)
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Posted 12/31/2017   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don;s program is a good one..If you want to try mine (FREE)..It is written for Linux, but I found a windows version..go near bottom of he page..

Gwyddion is a modular program for SPM (scanning probe microscopy) data visualization and analysis.

http://gwyddion.net/download.php


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Posted 12/31/2017   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again wert !
Rene
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Posted 01/03/2018   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy to say I won my New Brunswick # 1 stamp, "28" numeral cancel of St George, N.B. 1854 RF 8

Will put a better scan when it arrives in 4-5 days from B.C. expedited-registered mail delivery - from DeveneyStamps - an auction house on ebay I trust for the past year or so. Bought my Bluenose from them.

For the International members, New Brunswick is a Province of Canada and joined the Confederation in 1867. Therefore, this Pence issue was under the British at the time. 3 stamps with "pence" values were in existence at the time, prior to the introduction of decimal issues. Numerical cancels were used and numbered at the time of Pence issues as well as others. Very complicated History but more than 400,000 "3 pence" stamps were printed according to The Postal History of Nova Scotia and Neew Brunswick 1754-1867, by Jephcott, Greene and Young (1964 publishing)

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Posted 01/04/2018   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good stuff Renden...Nice grab buddy..

Here is the list of provinces that joined the confederation to Canada for those of you around the world.

Province or Territory
Joined Confederation

New Brunswick...........1867
Newfoundland............1949
Northwest Territories...1870
Nova Scotia.............1867

Robert

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