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Anthony's Llc Dismal PF Report Card = Follow Up To 10/23/17 Discussion

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Posted 01/26/2018   7:46 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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In my experience its more fun that way for all concerned.


I totally agree. Well said.
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There was some earlier discussion that using ebay's "Report Item" system was pointless and was a waste of time.

Another user commented though that his board members were successful in using it to get items removed.

So, does the process work or doesn't it?

There's only one way to find out!

Let's do an experiment.

It requires about 30 seconds of your time.

This is an example of a rare local stamp, 4L1:

https://siegelauctions.com/lot_grd....emailflag=on



This is the same stamp as shown in the Scott Specialized catalog.

Here is Anthony's fake (or replica, to use ebay's terminology):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stamps-....m1438.l2649



Here's another example of a fake of 4L1:



Anyone can clearly see that the genuine stamp is much different than the other two. There are no listed varieties of this stamp; there can be no "difference of opinion."

The experiment is to simply click on the above link for the Anthony fake and complete the "report item" form, using either of the two entries that I showed previously (whichever one you think will work best).

Then maybe "Watch" the stamp, and let's see what happens.

If enough interested collectors here really want to clean up ebay by removing fraudulent items and/or getting rid of problem sellers, then please participate in this experiment.

Maybe we'll see if ebay does actually remove problem lots (with enough people reporting them), or they don't do anything at all.

In either case, the results should be interesting.

Jim
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Edited by James Drummond - 01/26/2018 8:21 pm
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Done!

Do the same to that 8A listed before someone buys it.

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Edited by jaxom100 - 01/26/2018 8:30 pm
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/26/2018   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/26/2018   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobplates to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in
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Posted 01/26/2018   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Done.

Why is it that every time I click on an ebay link in SCF it takes me to the Canadian site?
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Posted 01/26/2018   9:55 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Done. Why not...
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Posted 01/26/2018   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in. Done.
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Posted 01/26/2018   10:10 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It is comforting to know that counterfeit stamps are not allowed.


But I just found over half a dozen counterfeits lists in the US Stamps section. However, they were all clearly listed as counterfeits.
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Posted 01/26/2018   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Part of this is ebay's fault. "Replica" stamps that resemble valid United States postage stamps would be considered counterfeit if fraudulently used as postage. A well-documented example was the case of the inverted Jenny replica on cover found in Florida a few years ago, but enough valid stamps were on the cover to pay the postage. The philatelic community would be better off if modern replica stamps were banned from ebay. Older counterfeit stamps are often well documented and are considered collectible. It should also be noted that adding cancels to valid US stamps is illegal. A former seller from upstate New York was documented using before (buy) and after (sell) showing augmented cancels designed to hide defects. Now that ebay buyers are anonymous, it is much more difficult to document before and after stamps alterations.

If ebay considers fine stamps, one centered high and the other centered low to be duplicate listings if the titles are identical, then there is no hope. It appears that ebay will enforce only what they believe hurts their bottom line. Convince ebay that selling misdescribed or altered stamps is hurting sales, they would move swiftly to suppress such activity.
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Edited by cfrphoto - 01/26/2018 10:46 pm
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Posted 01/26/2018   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Reedededge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Done!

This is exactly what I was trying to do with my grassroots movement. James Drummond figured out a much simpler, and in my opinion, probably more compelling way to accomplish this. Our goals are the same, which is to expose fraudulent sellers, and Anthony's is certainly at the top of many of our lists.

Great job, James!

Now, let's see if "Report Item" = removal of item...or is it just ebay's version of the suggestion box that I alluded to earlier?
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