Palo Is Having A February Sale On Their Own Pages

Palo is actually running a sale on their own pages, completely unheard of (at least I don't ever recall them having one before). They occasionally discount some of the brands they resell, but never their own stuff.

https://paloalbums.com




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Thanks for the notice.

From a few minutes browsing, the Davo price reductions appear to be on Davo supplements only. The Palo discounts are real enough, but of course they're from already very high page prices (at least they're high prices to me!).

The Palo pages I saw were sized exactly the same as Davo album pages. Of the major brands of stamp albums I'm familiar with -- Lighthouse, Schaubek, Lindner, Scott, etc. -- Davo has the largest pages. This may be because Palo is one of Davo's main U.S. distributors, so they may have an agreement to use Davo pages, but I don't know if that's true. I think that means you're going to need a Davo binder (and slipcase) to hold these pages. Or does Palo have its own binder sized for Davo pages? An empty Davo binder and slipcase typically costs maybe $70? Not sure. I've never bought any Palo albums, but I'm very familiar with Davo as I have dozens of their albums. Davo is a mid-priced album which sells at a high price, but it's very nice. I imagine the similarly-high priced Palo pages are equally nice.

One thing I don't much like about Palo (besides the high prices) is that they seem to feel that printing pages in color is a good idea. I don't understand this. The contrast between a filled space with a colorful stamp in it and a blank space with a black and white illustration, or no illustration at all, is one of the ways we see what stamps we need. I can't see any advantage to the color illustration other than maybe in the case of the few very similar stamps in different shades. But even those make sense if you just open a catalogue. If Palo's alternative black and white pages (which they offer for some albums, but I didn't see this for all albums) were a good deal cheaper, I wouldn't care that some people like color pages. But they aren't. They're the same price. It's all a bit odd to me.

Thanks for the heads up on this, but I imagine the vast majority of collectors looking at even these discounted prices are going to have to work a second job to afford many Palo albums. Just for the fun of it, I priced a Palo "butterflies" topical album which you can't get anywhere else (the other albums you can). After I got up to a few thousand dollars, blank pages started to become a lot more appealing. Their prices are in Lighthouse album territory. I don't know if that's warranted, though, especially since they're either 8.5 x 11 or Davo page size, and I think their layouts have up to this point been the Steiner page layouts. Or am I wrong about that?

A lot of misperceptions in your post, I'm afraid.




Not markedly higher than other hingeless album providers, e.g., Lindner, Safe, Lighthouse.




No, Palo pages do not fit Davo binders. There is no connection at all between Davo and Palo other than the latter being a distributor for the former, and that relationship is only a recent one. Palo was making their own album pages long before they started distributing Davo products.




I don't like color pages myself, so it's a good thing that you can simply request black & white versions for the hingeless pages by putting a note in the order. As to why the black & white pages are not cheaper, it's because the printing is a tiny portion of the pages' actual cost, the majority being in the mounts and the labor/process to affix the mounts.




And that is different from other hingeless pages how?




You're wrong about that.

The Palo albums are fully illustrated, whereas Steiner are not.

Your comments appear to be a diatribe about the price of hingeless pages, which would apply to all publishers, so I'm not sure why they're directed at Palo.

1. For collectors in the U.S., Palo pages are in Scott order, something that can be very useful if you are used to that sequencing.

2. Palo offers countries that no other publisher offers. They literally offer the entire world per Scott. For example, they are the only mainstream publisher to offer hingeless pages for early Mexico, early Hungary, etc. Where most publishers only cover modern issues, Palo makes pages for all countries from the beginning of their Scott listings.

3. You can buy individual replacement pages pro rata (slightly higher rate), so for example, if you wanted an extra hingeless page for Columbians or Trans Missippi to hold a parallel used, mint or set of proofs, you can do it.

4. They will do custom hingeless pages and layouts for you upon request (granted, at a cost).

5. As I mentioned in my original post, a sale of ANY kind on their own pages is unheard of, therefore worthy of posting.

I get that hingeless pages are expensive and not for everyone, but I'm not sure this thread is an appropriate place for the perceived merits, or lack thereof, of hingeless pages.

I have Palo for my KGVI and Davo for my GB and Ireland collections. I like the Palo better. Yes, they are the same size.

Jack Kelley

While they may be the same physical sheet size, the binders are different. Palo are 5-ring, whereas Davo are 2-post.

Well I certainly wont criticize Palo Albums ever again! Revenue Collector, this is supposed to be a friendly stamp collecting forum. It's just a hobby. You might want to take it down just a tiny bit.

Just correcting falsehoods, that's all. You might want to not scold a tiny bit.

Palo Egypt 1921-25


Steiner Egypt 1921-25

If the page layout of Palo and Steiner pages are not the same, then they are remarkably similar.

Schaubek produces a complete set of Hungary albums, as does Lindner.

I'd assumed that Palo used the basic Steiner system to construct its traditional, non-A4 albums, as Jim's illustration suggests. That's why it can offer wide coverage. I presume that it adds additional value for Commonwealth issues by following the Gibbons, not the Scott, numbering system. At one stage, Gibbons offered Steiner pages for individual countries in fairly basic albums (not marketed as Steiner). It clearly saw these as a painless means of providing coverage for countries for which there was no commercial justification for producing a "proper" album.

Neither Palo nor Scott album material is distributed in Europe, and I don't recall seeing Palo albums popping up in auctions.

It's always good to have sales of album leaves, as opposed to albums. Most of the European album leaves can be obtained at a discount, although not usually from the manufacturer itself.

The Palo and Davo pages are the same size. I should have explained why I like the Palo better. Its because the Palo albums are more robust and have a five ringed system instead of a two post system. I have had issues with the rings aligning properly on the Palo. I purchased the Davo's (hingeless) during their 40% off sale.

Jack Kelley

Has anyone seen the Palo US Revenue Match & Medicine pages? If so, any thoughts?

The only Palo U.S. revenue pages I have are the ones for Stock Transfer. They do have a thumbnail up for one of the M&M pages.

I find it interesting that while they have pages for Wine stamps, they don't have pages for U.S. Beer stamps; they're not included in the "Miscellaneous Revenues" section.

Here is the thumbnail for the M&M pages:

Thanks, I saw the one sample page on the Palo webpage, but I was curious whether there are spaces for some of the varieties (imperf between, perf and die cut) and whether there is space for full wrappers or just cut-squares. I guess I will e-mail Palo directly.

I've always found them to be responsive to inquiries as to what specifically is and is not included. Before I purchased the pages for Mexico, I went back and forth several times asking about specific sets or varieties.

For those who haven't seen it, I scanned in the Palo Mexico pages back in 2013 when I purchased them, so people could see the coverage:

https://goscf.com/t/33786


More recently, I posted several of the U.S. Stock Transfer pages:

https://goscf.com/t/58379

I like a lot about Palo pages. One big issue I have- the page size. They are enormous. I have damaged some pages just using the album, it is easy to bend the corners when turning pages. They will not fit into most printers, even wide ones. I have to use the services of a print shop to make supplemental pages. I really think they deliberately made them this way so that their customers would have to be dependent on them for supplemental materials.

I still like them.