1c 1851 Plate 4 Stamps

I too have been picking up the imprint copies as they come by. I've even gone as far as over paying for them but I just don't see the imperforate imprints from any plate surface that often.

They are tough items to find.
When one does show up, it is often hard to win the bid.

Take a look at this stamp.
It was bought as a #7.
Does the bottom right plume indicate Relief "C" of plate 4?
The only thing close would be 4-5L2 with that short of a plume.

Zero chance of being from Plate 4.

What indicates that it cannot be plate 4?
What plate would you suggest I start looking? Relief T or A?

Relief A plate 2. There are several positions if I recall correctly, with a short LR plume.

Plate 4 stamps are immediately identifiable by knowing what the scrolls look like.

What's The Best Franklin Blue You All Seen? Is There Sheets Out There?

Huh?

The 1 cent Franklin? I call it the Franklin Blues

I purchased a bulk lot at a recent auction on Stamps Auction Network that was described as "Scott A5 designs" (no Scott numbers specified). I could tell by the image (though the stamps overlapped) that not all were #24. So far I've found #18 (33L12), #23 (plating TBD), and this one, which I've plated as 86L4 (Type IIIA, Scott #22). Though unfortunately scissor-separated by a user who had no use for those new-fangled holes in the stamps, a faint line running slightly NW-SE between the arrow tips can be seen (maybe not so well in the attached photo).

Gotta love those A5's.

I don't know that I've seen a bulk lot of 1c stamps described as such. Usually there is just enough value in such a lot, as to warrant even the slightest attempt at further identification.

For future reference, there is some good discussion on top row plate 4 here:

https://goscf.com/t/64400

Anyone notice this beautiful example of 7L4 which closed on ebay the other day, masquerading as a #9? Final bid: $565.00.

Saw it, loved it, but was too pricey in the end.