Scott 2018 Catalog Listing For Canada

Does anyone have the actual Scott 2018 listing for Canada from the Scott 2018 stamp catalog (not the Unitrade 2018 Canada catalog)? Are Canada Scott # 169a and # 195d listed in it?

A little confused.
Not listed in the 2017 Scott,
As far as I know, the 2018 I cannot order until April.
Please correct me, if wrong.

I didn't know that Scott 2018 has not come out yet.

My error Jogil.. apologies........2018 has.
I am not sure what constitutes 2018 catalogue, I only buy cut portions.

Perhaps 2018 only goes to mid 2017 listings?

Do you know if they are listed in the Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue?

jogil
why would it not be in Unitrade 2018......date of publishing ??

Rene

I finally found the following today just very recently after searching since I was not told about this when it was published a few months ago..

Canada No. 195d, the 1932 1¢ dark green, is now recognized as being a rotary press, dry printing on gummed paper. Previously, this stamp was thought to be a flat-plate printing and was listed as such, but recent convincing research indicates the listing for this stamp in catalogs has been inaccurate.

https://www.linns.com/news/us-stamp...ailable.html

As for 195d, Boggs back in the 1940's wrote:

The flat plate printings are on a dry pre-gummed paper and most of the rotary press printings are on a slightly dampened paper that was gummed after printing. However, examples of the 1c, 2c, or 3c with smooth gun (so called "flat printing" are from rotary presses but on dry pre-gummed paper. These show the design embossed in the gum, as can be seen on the flat plate printings.

In the same decade, Holmes wrote:

The 1c, 2c, and 3c values were rotary printed but a number of sheets of the 1c got out witout the ridged gum. This was due to experiments being done to discover the least amount of "creasing" or "ridging" that was necessary to prevent curling of the sheets. These sheets are commonly referred to as "flat" printing.

Holmes in his 8th edition from 1954 no longer goes into details as above, but he refers to the variety as "Flat Gum".

I have not traced when or where the description morphed into "Flat Plate Printing".

There was a time when I considered getting rid of all of my old philatelic literature. Only recently have I realised the real value of these books. Obviously, much knowledge and information has been lost. I suppose this is the result of an over reliance on one catalogue for Canada.

As a side-note to this, it was revealed in the 2015: First Quarter edition of BNA Topics, the official Journal of BNAPS, that there is in fact a 2-cent Medallion printed on the rotary press but with pre-gummed paper. It shows the same characteristics on the gum side as 95d does. The example is a plate block, with only one selvedge edge. It is from Plate 1 though. One can only surmise, based on what Boggs wrote and this fairly recent discovery of a 2-Cent - that there may also be examples of the 3-Cent on pre-gummed paper.

Holmes in 1968 and Robson Lowe in 1973 mention the 2 cents and Milos and Casey mention the 3 cents.

Have you ever seen one Jogil. Since the BNAPS article in 2015, I have searched through the stock of every dealer I know and have come up with nothing. Due to the fact that it is not listed in Unitrade for the 2-Cent and 3-Cent, I would assume that most dealers do not even check for it. The Medallion Issue is not one of those sets that seem to generate much interest.

Yes, I have seen both the 2 cents and 3 cents Medallions that are dry printed but are very scarce which is why there was doubt as to their existence. There are pictures of some of them in a Canada Medallion stamp book. Do you collect the Medallion stamps or dry printed stamps?

I recently completed the Medallion set and have all of the plates in MNH for all of the values. So I now have a 'base' to begin with and would like to pursue my investigations further. I did not know that there was a book written exclusively about the set. Do you have the author's name?

I was at the big show in Mississauga this weekend and hit every dealer that carries Canada and went through all of their Medallion stock, but came up with nothing. I am assuming that even a single mint stamp with four sides perforated (thereby excluding the booklets), would be an example of the dry printed-pre-gummed paper.

I really appreciate your insights and depth of knowledge!!

Do you have all of the Medallion 195d matched plate blocks? They are definitely different looking than those from 198, 199 and 200 since they look more like 195, 196 and 197 and 197c plate blocks. Thus, they are considered rotary plate press rather than flat plate press.

Hi Jogil,

I posted the images of the plates on this thread: https://goscf.com/t/51672&whichpage=2#531267