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Is This #594 (Scott) ?

 
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Posted 05/06/2018   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add inso1980 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm kinda new in the philatelic world. Got my mother's collection that I wish to continue.

I found this in her album, and I'm wondering if this is #594 of Scott catalog (1c Green Benjamin Franklin perf 11, 1923).

This could be a little gem found in this collection. (or not)



Thanks guys :-)
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Posted 05/06/2018   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is FAR more likely to be a #632, perf 11x10.5 then a perf 11 rotary. There are perhaps 50 examples of 594 known, but there were at least 5 BILLION 632's issued, possibly more.
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Posted 05/06/2018   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Plus it's the wrong shade of green.
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Posted 05/06/2018   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add inso1980 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Thanks for your answer.

I was thinking that could be some kind of mistake from her part. It's kinda hard, in the firsts years, to indentify correctly stamps, specifically with different variant of greens.

Waiting to receive some tools to help me with perforations.
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Posted 05/07/2018   02:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome.
As revcollector posted, your stamp is perf 11 x 10.5 and is a #632. We can tell by digitally comparing the side perfs with the bottom perfs as shown here


As you can see, the perfs are not the same and do not align up. A #594 is perf 11 x 11 and the perfs would have to be the same.

When identifying stamps, it is best to start with the assumption that you have the most common variety, not the rarest variety.
Don
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Posted 05/08/2018   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add inso1980 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@51studebaker Thank you for your help.
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Posted 06/25/2018   05:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthux to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I have one that might be a 594 or a 596, I'm only new at this and would be good if someone can tell me what stamp I have.
Thanks, Matt.
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Posted 06/25/2018   06:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is also helps to show the back since we are looking for offset on the back paper to see if it is flat plate stamp like 552.
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Posted 06/25/2018   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthux to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


here's the back, what do you look for here?
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Posted 06/25/2018   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add goinpostal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jogil,

I have found after examining thousands of 1c franklins that setoff is not just found on flat press stamps in fact it is just as commonly found on rotary press stamps as well. also the rotary press being much faster then a flat press would increase the likelihood of setoff on rotary press stamps would it not? So in my opinion setoff should be disregarded when trying to identify one these and focus should be strictly on perf gauge commonly misread due to minute difference and design measurements which are usually very obvious even when using a handheld ruler with consideration also for the color shade and any cancellation markings but none for setoff. I may be mistaken but thats the determination I have made after countless hours of studying and identifying tens of thousands of wash/franklin issues. One thing regarding setoff I have noticed is that when present on a flat press stamp is that the inks pattern lines up nearly perfect with the image on the front where setoff on rotary press stamps will be misaligned vertically or horizontally based on whether its a taller or wider rotary press stamp so for example setoff on a #594 would be misaligned off to the left or right if that makes sense.
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Posted 06/25/2018   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Goinpostal - How are those certs coming along?
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Posted 06/25/2018   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
goinpostal are you referring to set off on mint or used stamps?
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