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Posted 07/24/2018   07:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add craigconewbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Got a few thousand stamps through an inheritance and I trying to learn. Found these in the piles. Are these what is considered a coiled pair? They have the perfs and straight sides on the wrong sides. Can someone please explain to me what these are?
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Posted 07/24/2018   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome.
No, they are a pair from a booklet.
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Thank you, every little bit of knowledge helps me with my new hobby.
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Posted 07/24/2018   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add craigconewbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are Scott numbers different by the format they were sold as? Coil, Single, Sheet, Booklet, Etc.?
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This link will assist you with IDing your stamps.
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...ntifier.html
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"Are Scott numbers different by the format they were sold as? Coil, Single, Sheet, Booklet, Etc.?"

Yes, they generally are,

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not exactly - there are booklet singles in the Washington-Franklins that they give the same Scott number as the do for the sheet stamp (the only give a different lettered number for the complete booklet panes, but not for singles or pairs)
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not exactly - there are booklet singles in the Washington-Franklins that they give the same Scott number as the do for the sheet stamp (the only give a different lettered number for the complete booklet panes, but not for singles or pairs)


Booklet pane singles share that same variety letter as a booklet pane but are not priced. It is not appropriate to use sheet stamp Scott numbers when describing booklet pane singles. Some early First and Second Bureau booklet pane singles are collected with the idea of reconstructing complete booklet panes which can be quite expensive. It is too bad that collectors don't believe booklet pane singles are collectible. Most can be distinguished by watermark orientation and small size differences when compared to sheet stamps from the same issue.
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Booklet pane singles share that same variety letter as a booklet pane but are not priced. It is not appropriate to use sheet stamp Scott numbers when describing booklet pane singles. Some early First and Second Bureau booklet pane singles are collected with the idea of reconstructing complete booklet panes which can be quite expensive. It is too bad that collectors don't believe booklet pane singles are collectible. Most can be distinguished by watermark orientation and small size differences when compared to sheet stamps from the same issue.


You are just making stuff up, Booklet singles are not only not priced, they are not listed under the complete booklet listing. I am not saying this makes sense or that they are not collectible, just saying what is in Scott.
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It is up to each collector to decide, not you. AEF booklet pane singles on or off cover, listed or not, command a premium. I routinely check them for dealers or expertize them.

Some modern used booklet pane singles are listed and collectible because the design or perforation variety was only issued in booklet form.

Scott opened the door when the vertical watermark varieties of 279, 279b and 283 were added to the catalog. It may only be a matter of time before Fourth Bureau special paper and booklet pane singles are formally recognized. With or without a watermark, flat plate booklet pane singles can easily be identified. Rotary press booklet pane singles with large margins often show up in collections.
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You are just making stuff up,


Insulting posts may ultimately suppress useful posts - Gresham's Law. Posters who accuse others of making things up should consider going elsewhere.
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