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Pillar Of The Community
India
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Posted 11/17/2018   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joy Daschaudhuri to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@floortrader

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This garbage of calling someone a expert because of something they read in a catalog is nothing new , they are just a "CHAT ROOM CATALOG QUEEN " , I ran into them 17 years ago on the ebay chat room when they start calling each other "EXPERTS" ,yea experts on reading the info from different catalogs . Now over the years as more information is loaded on to the internet now we are seeing a new kind of member on the chat boards ,these are the " INTERNET QUEENS " they are the new experts we see here, they are experts as long as they can find it on a website . Never do you see them answer a question from their own material ,it is always a link or a photo off the internet .




Another point is those who (like the OP) think that the so-called experts issuing Certificates are infallible, are wrong. At least I can tell for Indian and IFS materials, there is history of crap certs issued by both BPA and RPS.
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Posted 11/17/2018   02:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
an expert would say.

bearing in mind that i'm looking at a picture on a computer and I do NOT have the actual stamp in hand.

my oppinion would that the top 2.nd left perf has the attached to the stamp to repair it.
the stamp and cancel it self is genuine, BUT 1 perf has been manipulated.


i think it's a GOOD service to provide to tell someone who knows less than you, that their stamps aren't perhaps as good as the think, or even completely wrong - just make sure you're absolutely correct, and that you say it with class - publicly, others will learn.
if done with class there would be no reason to react like the OP, he should instead considder it a service provided for free. and bring this knowledge back to where he purchased the stamp.

to me this is a reaction of irritation, because he most likely overpaid by a lot and purchased without the proper knowledge.

and I do not think the OP is correct in his gloryfication of the experts and their little pieces of paper. Everyone makes mistakes, and every expert has done so countless times.

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Canada
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Posted 11/17/2018   04:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mirman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been following this thread with interest. I have not worked much on my US stamps but through all the back and forth between the different posters, I have learned a lot on what to look at when IDing stamps. And that info can be used on stamps for other countries as well.

I'd like to thank all those that offer their opinions on stamps and am in awe of the depth of knowledge I have seen on this board. I also enjoy and appreciate seeing the stamps shown by other collectors.

I will continue learning with everyone's help.

Thank you everyone.

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Posted 11/17/2018   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rismoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Though, somewhat different in nature, I get upset when I read something like this, in this case J58 descriptions from Siegel:

This stamp is the key to any meaningful collection of the Postage Due issues. Meaningful to whom? Auction houses relying on 18% rakes?
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Posted 11/17/2018   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have been following this thread with interest. I have not worked much on my US stamps but through all the back and forth between the different posters, I have learned a lot on what to look at when IDing stamps. And that info can be used on stamps for other countries as well.

I'd like to thank all those that offer their opinions on stamps and am in awe of the depth of knowledge I have seen on this board. I also enjoy and appreciate seeing the stamps shown by other collectors.

I will continue learning with everyone's help.

Thank you everyone.


This post is wildly off-topic. And therefore disturbing...

When replying to this post, rational, intelligent, & thoughtful comments - written with a sense of kindness - are clearly not called for. This is an outrage.

Please review the site's rules and the topic of the thread. Only comments that are negative or making reference to underwear should be posted.

With a bit of cooperation, we can continue to have dumb threads drag on for pages, without end, with members attacking one another. Further attempts at civility only hinder our progress.

Thank you everyone.
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
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Posted 11/17/2018   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Feel bad I hurt or offended some people here .

So to make up for it ,I going to offer them something real special . A Expertised U.S. PROOF OF THE GRAF ZEPPLIN with a copy of a cert. as they love expertised stamps the offer is for $1,000 donated to the STAMP COMMUNITY and DON will verify the gift .
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United States
8399 Posts
Posted 11/17/2018   08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To my friends here ,I need help . I need to purchase a few of these STAMP SHOW souvenir cards if you have any I will be willing to pay a buck apiece for them . As you know this is no reflect to any previous posting on the board ,here is the card I need .
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Posted 11/17/2018   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The photo in the cert and the cut piece are not the same item. Strange.
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Posted 11/17/2018   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The photo in the cert and the cut piece are not the same item.


Ya think?? What tipped you off??

The previous two posts are seemingly a (humorous?) moronic attempt to demonstrate that certs are not all they are cracked up to be.

In doing so, I believe this is a very real attempt to defraud someone - not to mention an offer to provide said illicitly-acquired funds to this site.

This certainly must be in violation of the site's rules. This poster should be banned, or at the very least, suspended for an extended period of time.
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Posted 11/17/2018   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add michaelschreiber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rogdcam,

The cut almost certainly came from a different example of the same U.S. souvenir card, if it in fact really does not fit.

These Zepp cuts are well-known as proof or essay wannabes, but in 1980 the German expertizer thought the 1971 cutout was an item from the 1930s.

Such shenanigans happen to similar stamp images printed in some books, for example, snippings from the 1950 Austrian Jubilee stamp celebration book.
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Edited by michaelschreiber - 11/17/2018 09:13 am
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United States
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Posted 11/17/2018   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some collectors are just too sensitive.
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Posted 11/17/2018   10:01 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Methinks there may be some solar wind activity affecting electronic devices, as apparently there are widespread incidents of people's humor and sarcasm detectors needing extensive recalibration.
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Posted 11/17/2018   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This thread has run it's productive course, please let us move on.
Thanks
Don
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Posted 11/17/2018   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
umm err uhh
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Posted 12/17/2018   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
???

I'm going to lie down for awhile.
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Edited by DrewM - 12/17/2018 11:08 pm
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