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Victoria Postage Due Inverted Watermark

 
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Posted 11/13/2018   10:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add danko to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Quick question, my SG does not specify Victoria postage due stamps with inverted wmks . I have SG #D35a (Scott #26) with inverted watermark. Is there any premium for it?

Thank you.
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Posted 11/13/2018   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless the USA issued Queen Victoria stamps, what country are you referring to?
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Posted 11/13/2018   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You'll need Brusden and White I think.
My semi specialised Gibbons does not list inverted Wmks, outside its scope.

I'll dig out my ancient 1977 ACSC and see if they list them there.
Oops...being Victoria, not listed in Commonwealth.
I make yours July-sept 1899 1d

BJ: the forum thread is Aussie stamps.


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Edited by rod222 - 11/13/2018 10:25 pm
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Posted 11/13/2018   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod

Not quite. It's 1905-1909 issue (according to SG or Scott) with A below Crown watermark.
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Posted 11/14/2018   06:00 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Danko,

The method of printing was that each sheet of 240 watermark impressions was inserted into the printing machine and 120 frames were printed, then the sheet was turned and reinserted for the second impression of 120 frames.

This resulted in a 50/50 ratio of inverted to upright watermarks.

While I am a completist and seek each variation, there is no philatelic significance in the watermark position.

Note: this was not the case for Australian postage due stamps.


John
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Posted 11/14/2018   06:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Danko,
you said...
Quote:
I have SG #D35a


Then said.......
Quote:
Not quite. It's 1905-1909 issue


The 2 do not match
I still remain at 1899 July..............

That's why "a picture paints a thousand words" (or scan)

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Edited by rod222 - 11/14/2018 06:40 am
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Posted 11/15/2018   01:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add langtounlad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222

D35a was issued in 1906 so how do you find a mismatch?

The best way to sort out what it is would of course be with a scan of the watermark as there was a change of watermark for the 1905 series. SG refers to this in its Australia catalogue.

danko clearly describes the watermark as A below Crown which is of course the watermark used in the 1905 series. Earlier issues in Victoria used V over Crown.

Regards
Frank
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Posted 11/15/2018   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod

Sorry for delay, here are the pictures. I know its more fun that way for everybody. It looks like your version of catalog have lot more numbers then mine.

John

Thank you very much. That is what I was looking for.









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Posted 11/15/2018   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
It looks like your version of catalog have lot more numbers then mine.


Thanks Danko,
I was discombobulated there for a while.............
Looks like SG has reorganised their Catalogue numbers.

I'll place a strike through my catalogue and pencil in the alteration.
(I very rarely use SG, it's an 1993 edition)
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Posted 11/16/2018   06:35 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

SG did reorganise the cat #s in the 1990s.
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Posted 11/16/2018   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aha! Thanks for the confirmation 64.
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Posted 11/16/2018   11:27 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2014 edition of the Australian Commonwealth Specalists' Catalogue, Part 10: The Postage Dues includes listings for New South Wales and Victoria and these are more comprehansive than anything seen previously.

I would guess that the stamp pictured is the aniline rosine and pale green one (subject to the limitations of scans, of course).

Interestingly, the 4d of this series is shown as £18 mint and £11 used in the extract above. It is a stamp completely under rated, I have seen just a handful of dated used copies in 40 years of collecting these things.

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