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These Couldn't Be 596. Help!

 
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Posted 05/29/2019   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add imodius to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hello all,

These were found in a random bag. They are green and measure perf 11 and have a vertical distance of 22 3/4. There has got to be something that is not 596 about these, help!

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Posted 05/29/2019   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Always begin the ID process that you the most common (not the rarest) variety. Next check the perforations, a 596 is 11x11 (your stamps are not). Forget trying to measure the design on W/F stamps, the tolerances are far too small; folks use them because it helps support the bias that they have a rare stamp. More information here
http://www.stampsmarter.com/learnin...arities.html
http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/192...ntifier.html
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Posted 05/29/2019   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is still paper stuck to the back of them with some gum on the stamps. Should I leave that? or is there a way to get the letter paper off the back of them and still have the gum that is left on them?
My perf guide might be messed. These two I got for like 20 bucks and they were in a bag of mixed world paper.





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Posted 05/29/2019   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Having a bit of gum left on these stamps is not adding any value. If desired you can soak the paper off by floating them in clear, cool water.

The top/bottoms perforations of the stamps shown above are 10 1/2, not 11.

Here is one of your stamps with the left hand perforations digitally compared to the top and bottom; if your stamp was 11x11 the perforations would align. You can emulate the same thing by comparing the perforations with a stamp of known perforations (ie. a stamp which was only made with perf 11).
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Posted 05/29/2019   9:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My ruler is frickin broken. These pics make me cringe. There is no way that these 2 are 596.






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Posted 05/29/2019   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
#632, #658 - one of those
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Posted 05/29/2019   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It just could be one of those days that I just want to throw all of my measuring tools in the garbage.



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Posted 05/29/2019   9:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 05/29/2019   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to soak them, get that paper off them and probably send them to aps. I have been sending items to aps. How much are these worth?
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Posted 05/29/2019   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As you show/see your perf gauge is fine. The 11 perfs do not line up. All of the perfs must line up. Show a picture using the perf gauge with 10.5.

As Don states forget measuring the design. Too many variables.

You are in need of sending off for any certs yet on any stamps. Much more to learn first.

Use the SCF "search function" on any stamp subjects and stamp smarter. http://www.stampsmarter.com/index.html
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Posted 05/29/2019   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The tool is not the problem. Look at the arrows I added to one of your pictures. The left arrow and the right arrow are both centered on the perf marks on the tool. I put the arrows right in the center. But the left arrow points to the left part of a perf on the stamp and the right arrow points to the right part of a perf. To get the right measurement all the perf marks should line up against the stamp perfs in the same way. Ideally, the center of the perf mark aligns with the center of the perf. What you can see in your picture is that the perf marks do not align with the stamp perfs. So the picture reports that it is definitely not a perf 11.

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No need to clog up the APS with needless submissions.

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod.
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Posted 05/30/2019   04:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got that paper off of them. Thank You Don! That is a charm.
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