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10c 1847 - Scott #2 - Inner Frame Line?

 
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Posted 07/06/2019   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
There is an inner frame line. I'm not used to seeing that. Is that ok? Is there something going on here I'm missing?



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Posted 07/06/2019   3:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Frame added (from back) and frame drawn in (front)? I would dip this stamp.
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Posted 07/06/2019   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is missing the initials below Ten Cents as well and the outer frame line is drawn in.
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Posted 07/06/2019   3:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Three of the four margins comes up bright white when dipped. I have to wonder how they did all that, given the cancellation covers the whole stamp including the margins. I knew this looked a little too good to be true.
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Posted 07/07/2019   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cancels can be faked, too.
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Posted 07/07/2019   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I know that. I guess it means they started with an uncancelled stamp of some sort - maybe a proof or essay - added margins and some dirt and cancels to make it look authentic. Someone must have worked pretty hard at making it look good. I guess all I can do with this stamp is put it into the junk drawer. I guess I could list it as a fake stamp and ask like $20 for it but I'm afraid someone down the line would get duped...
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Posted 07/07/2019   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rather than selling it, donate it to APS reference collection, take the tax credit/loss, and remove it from the marketplace all at the same time.

I suspect this was a used stamp and UV light examination would reveal traces of cleaned cancel other than the prominent red. Boardwalk margins without a cert is too good to be true.
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Posted 07/07/2019   7:21 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a genuinely used stamp with a genuine red grid cancel. The only fake cancel is that which is on top of the three added margins. Almost the entire periphery of the stamp design has also been painted in. I'll pay $20 for it.
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Posted 07/07/2019   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it really is a genuine used #2, with fake margins and painted in design, maybe I would be willing to put it put on auction and see what happens.
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Posted 07/07/2019   9:30 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you trim of the fake parts, it should be worth more than $20
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Posted 07/08/2019   04:55 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That would be insanity! Soak it in water if one must purify the stamp. I wouldn't be surprised if this stamp was repaired upwards of 80-100 years ago, long before we had a bunch of pinheads yacking about graded stamps.
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Posted 07/08/2019   11:37 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
how is removing added margins any different than soaking of a regum job?
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Posted 07/08/2019   11:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not going to do anything to the stamp.
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Posted 07/09/2019   06:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
risny keep the stamp, add it too your reference collection and use it as an example of a repair job. when dipped this stamp will take fluid unevenly and exhibit what we call picture framing. it is often done to add perfs margins or to reback a seriously thinned item.
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Posted 07/09/2019   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i forgot to add that its real vvalue is as a teaching tool.
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