Elusive Shade. Color Match?

Do I have a match?

I've said this in the last week to someone else-- instead of playing guessing games with members on the board, please instead show us the stamp you're talking about, and what you think it is, and why you think it's what you think it is.

It's the only way for anyone to know what you're trying to achieve here. What stamp is it?

Sorry to be blunt here, but if anyone is going to try to help you, you have to give us at least the bare minimum of information.

Thanks-- Ray

Okay, I'll add pics of the stamp too.

Best would be a scan of the stamp you think it's rose carmine and others where you think they are not, scanned at the same time.

Okay I will do that.

Okay here is a start. The stamp in question is in the top row third from the left. The top row have characteristics of of 267 and the bottom row have characteristics of 279B. I wanted to keep it simple so I simply asked if you think those colors match. If the colors match and I have identified 267 correctly then the stamp is 267c.

here is a hdr pic. it should be higher quality than fast scan. My scanner is broken.

Using image photos for color ID is virtual useless (scans are a little bit better in the context of a relative comparison but still dicey since every person's monitor is different).

But in terms of the photo above...humans perceive colors when light is reflected from a surface. It is ALL about the ambient light and wavelengths. So the only possible way anyone can say anything intelligent about the stamp colors above would be if they fully understood the ambient lighting. Scanners are a bit better (if done correctly with the scanner lid down) and are typically calibrated from the factory. But if you took the image under natural sunlight, or indirect natural light, or one of the dozens of typical fluorescent lights, one of the dozens of other interior light now available.. will all have a huge impact on how people will perceive the stamp colors.

Then add to this the fact that these are used stamps and Lord know what possible environmental and light exposure they have seen in the last 100+ years.

Then add to this that every person sees color differently.

Making a US stamp ID by color takes years of work building a reference collection, developing a good color eye, and standardizing on an ambient lighting source. Everything else is a WAG.
Don

That is rough. I have been viewing them under sunlight. What's a WAG? Thanks for responding.

WAG = wild-ass guess.

I have no idea what the photo in the original post is supposed to be.

WAG. That was a new one on me also. I could not figure out what Water Activated Gum had to do with the problem at hand !!

Peter

In the UK, "WAG" means "wives and girlfriends", usually of footballers, usually behaving badly.

Color is very difficult on monitors and in forums indeed. Still, a scan of the stamp would be better than a photo where all stamps look exactly the same...from what we saw until now it's not close to the rose carmine color. I also find this color interesting and did not find any example with a reliable scan of the 267c in the internet (SCF, PF, Siegel and so on). There are examples of the 279Bc, but it's not sure that the color is exactly the same as for the 267c.

You can also update your lexicon with SWAG, which is Scientific Wild-Ass Guess. This is used when there is something which lends credence to a WAG.

Wag, swag! And here I thought we should use full terms and not abbreviations.