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What Is The Greatest Need That Stamp Collectors Have?

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Posted 11/11/2023   05:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK,
I am pretty sure that making a sweeping generalization about a sweeping generalization is also irony. Would you agree with someone saying that 'Dutch only care about XYZ...'?

I have not been to every country in the world, but I am pretty sure that no one country has a monopoly on greed or selfishness. I am also fairly sure that no ideology has a monopoly on poor behavior by the people who follow it.

And one of the things that should attract people to this community is that we support different perspectives under the 'safe harbor' of philately. Here, I would like to think that people can steer their ships into the harbor from the storm raging in the world that is being powered by the winds of divisiveness.
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Posted 11/11/2023   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,

Please, read the whole post and do not jump to conclusions when looking at part of a sentence.


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Outside the USA, that first line goes: Americans only care about one thing: $$$$.


Is not a sweeping generalisation. It is an observation.
It says nothing about Americans. It says that a similar statement, commonly, is made about Americans "outside the USA."
And the anchoring involved with such statements is underlined in the post.
And statements like


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Young people (born after 1980) only care about one thing: $$$$. They will have no interest in taking up a hobby--or putting much effort into anything--unless it has strong likelihood of returning $$$$.


are neither inviting nor indicating a "safe harbor" for those young people.
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Posted 11/11/2023   05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I am pretty sure that making a sweeping generalization about a sweeping generalization is also irony. Would you agree with someone saying that 'Dutch only care about XYZ...'?


... Caramel waffles.


Absolutely.
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Posted 11/11/2023   05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Understood.
From my way of thinking, I would not make a large differentiation between me repeating a sweeping generalization and me making one myself. Either way, I would feel that I was contributing to divisiveness. <shrugs>

Please note that I am not defending or agreeing with the original post in question. In fact, when I first read it, I strongly disagreed and considered writing a response but decided to move on.
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Posted 11/11/2023   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Please note that I am not defending or agreeing the original post in question.


The thought did not occur to me.

The post in question is not the first post that is critical of young people. It is lamentable.

I think we should welcome anyone who collects stamps in whatever way. That includes those who have a single set of flowers on stamps or a single stamp - even if a single item does not make a collection - commemorating an event in his or her life.

Those who do not collect stamps, well, they, probably, have other interests. That is a good thing to. Without those girls who spend much time playing hockey, I would be missing out on a lot of enjoyment of watching their matches and talking with them, the club officials, and the parents and sibblings of these players.
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Posted 11/11/2023   06:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My first thought on the original post was, 'have not many other previous generations felt the exact same thing about the young people of the day'? I know that I recall my older generational family members saying the same about us when we were the young.
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Posted 11/11/2023   06:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. The Egyptians, probably, complained about the Greeks. The Greeks about the Romans. The Romans about Visigoths. It is in the human nature to find it difficult to change as much as it in the human nature to build on the collective knowledge of previous generations and change the world.

If I would be 16 now, I, unlikely, would be able to built my collection as I did. I think that would hold true if 16-year-old-I's carreer would be following the same path as mine did. Consequently, I doubt it will help if I complain about how young people collect stamps.
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Posted 11/11/2023   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I posted this here back in 2019, feels apropos now...

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Posted 11/11/2023   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This fairly recent Morning Consult survey while focused on NFT's is interesting:



https://pro.morningconsult.com/arti...collectibles
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Posted 11/11/2023   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hoosierboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Morning all,

Reality may suck; but, reality is what it is. This thread documents the factors changing our hobby have not changed in decades if not longer. Change is upsetting to those who do not understand how reality marches on.

The one thing constant year in and year out is change. Be of good cheer. Our hobby has and will continue to survive. We are all just the current stewards of our treasures. Our challenge is to work to pass on our love for this hobby to a new generation of its stewards.
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Posted 11/11/2023   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hoosierboy well said.
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Posted 11/11/2023   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Part of the reason the hobby is mostly men is that for many years women were actively discouraged from collecting. Even in the 70's there were stamp clubs which would not allow women members.
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Posted 11/11/2023   11:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Even in the 70's there were stamp clubs which would not allow women members.


That was over five decades ago.
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What Is The Greatest Need That Stamp Collectors Have?


Therapy.
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Posted 11/11/2023   1:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Five decades ago means that who knows how many might have been collectors are now not. Plus any young relatives who might have been enticed.
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