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Posted 08/09/2020   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This item looked interesting, but upon closer inspection, I'm confused. Does anyone else see the problem?




Note. A few of his other items have the same, "problem".
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Posted 08/09/2020   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Does anyone else see the problem?


The perforations are exactly the same on the front and the back.

It's like they're the same stamps, one with gum showing and the other with the stamp image showing. Instead of the perforations being "flipped."

Something fishy going on here...

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Posted 08/09/2020   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tone spot on same position (left of center) on both front and back views of 1 pound stamp?
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Posted 08/09/2020   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see the perforation problem but there has to be a logical explanation. Perhaps the printer setting was set to reverse?

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You can also see the Specimen text on the reverse scan, and it's as if read from the front. Looks to me like the seller scanned the reverse to show the condition and watermark, but wanted to show the watermark as it appears from the front, so reversed the image in the X axis.

For example, here's a front/reversed back/back:
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Posted 08/09/2020   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're right, Jack. Note that "SPECIMEN" isn't reversed, either.
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Posted 08/09/2020   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you scanned from the back, the perforations would be reversed, Specimen would be reversed, and the watermark would be reversed. For some reason, they scanned it from the back, then reversed it to look like the front. We know they did this because the hinge remnant would only be visible from the back. Why? Very strange thing to do when trying to sell stamps.
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Posted 08/10/2020   03:46 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For some unknown reason the seller has flipped the images of the back 180 degrees horizontally, so the perfs look like they are in the same position front and back.

The 'flipping' can be clearly seen by the fact that 'SPECIMEN' reads left to right on the scans of the back.
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Posted 08/10/2020   04:28 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most graphics apps have a 'mirror' function. Few people, even in this community, have any issues with 'playing' with the images they post. Many times it is unintentional, an app which straightens a stamp make significant changes to a image file. Other times it is intentional deception. Of course speculating on a person's intention is very thin ice. I wish image file formats automatically logged every change that had been done to the file in its metadata.
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Posted 08/10/2020   06:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perforations are not in reverse, as would all stamps if flipped over. And what I see of the word "SPECIMEN" on the back of the 10/- roo, it should also be in reverse, the "SPECIMEN" on the reverse of the 10/- roo is normal, which is impossible.

Fairdinkumstamps has a good point.
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Posted 08/10/2020   06:51 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rob041256,

This is a simulation of what the seller has done:

Normal scan of the front:


Normal scan of the back:


Using a graphics editor or some other basic image processing software, this normal scan of the back has been flipped 180 degrees about the vertical axis to make this:
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Posted 08/10/2020   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi fairdinkumstamps.

I recall a few years ago when I mistakenly flipped the stamp the wrong way. Here is the back view of one of my 2 Coat-of-Arms on thin paper, the thin paper gives a better insight into what you are saying.




Normal view, design and lettering reversed.


Flipped to align the reverse in the same direction as the front.


Also notice that the perfs are also aligned on the same side as the front in the flipped version.
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It now looks like an honest mistake. Still, a bad one to make when selling stamps.
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Posted 08/10/2020   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A mistake that can impact negatively on his sale. And now after a little detective work, it now seems to be an honest mistake.

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Posted 08/21/2020   03:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sotwuser to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the seller had not flipped the image most buyers would think the heavy hinge remnant was on the 1 stamp not the 10/ one. The seller probably doesn't realize the best practice would be to switch the placement of the stamps on the scanner.
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