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Posted 03/13/2010   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Tony Vella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


The coat of arms on the left is from 1893 while the one on the right is from 1907. I simply cannot see the difference in design and my Scott doesn't annotate any difference; it just lists a 1c gray for both years. Can anyone help me identify, please? Thanks in advance for all help.

Tony Vella
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Posted 03/13/2010   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't there a bar at the base of the tab on the yellow?

I'm not at home right now, so I don't have a catalogue at hand.

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Posted 03/13/2010   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course, Collin, you are right, there is a bar at the bottom of the tab. Which begs the question: How do you tell the two 1c grays apart when there is no tag?

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Posted 03/13/2010   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The side frame lines are continuous from the stamp through the tab. Of course, if your stamp is off-center and the bottom perfs cut through the bottom frame line, then you're out of luck.
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Posted 03/13/2010   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tony-

In looking at a couple in person, if I cover up the tabs, there is still a distinct difference between the two issues, right at the bottom of the stamp. As k says, as long as you have a little bit of margin, the difference will be clear. A plain margin with no inking will be the later issue.

As an aside for anyone who has grabbed their Belgiums to look at this, Michel and Scott Classic refer to two varieties of the 1907 1c gray, based on tab printing differences. They use different criteria. Michel says its NE PAS LIVRER or NEPASLIVRER while Scott says it is period after Dimanche, or not, with a period often missing after Zondag in the Dimanche-period-omitted (Type II) variety.

Scott's description seems to imply that there are more than two varieties, even if only two warrant catalogue numbers.

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Posted 03/15/2010   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Tony, did you resolve this?
The difference is the imitation perfs between the stamp and the tag.
If the tage is removed one can still see part of the perf design.



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Posted 03/16/2010   06:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps I am missing the obvious, but isn't one a 1 c and the other a 2 c?
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Posted 03/16/2010   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My two original stamps were selected to show the two different issues. What my problem involved was the fact that both issues (1893 and 1907) have a 1c gray and I was having a hell of a time seeing the differences. But I know better now.

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