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US Special Delivery Scott # E4 Or E5

 
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Posted 01/12/2022   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add thepackrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is a watermark the only way to tell the difference between these two special delivery stamps? I looked in Scotts and StampSmarter and saw the watermark as the only difference or did I miss something?

I have a few on cover and the price for the E4 is $110.00 used and $300.00 on cover.
The price for the E5 is $12.50 used and $25.00 on cover.

If this is the only way, then do I remove the stamp and see if I have the E4 and a $110.00 stamp or the E5 $12.50 stamp? Or keep them on cover and not know which they are?
Thanks,
Bob
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Posted 01/12/2022   10:08 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does the cover date lend any additional information (compared to issue dates of stamps)?
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Posted 01/12/2022   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The postmark on one is 1902 and the other is not legible.
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Posted 01/12/2022   10:22 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Date makes E5 a bit more likely. Is the cover from a larger or smaller PO? (Having the cover image would be helpful).
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Posted 01/12/2022   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I saw 1902 I thought E5 also. I will post scans tomorrow.
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Bob
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Posted 01/13/2022   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Is a watermark the only way to tell the difference between these two special delivery stamps?


Here is a direct answer:
1. Watermark
2. On cover or piece use where the dated postmark (of E-4) predates the issuance of E-5.
3. The so called "DOTS" of E-5 Plate Number 882 (E5a).
4. Line through "Postal Delivery" variety of E-5.
5. Any stamp with selvage including a plate number other than 77.

#3 and #4 do not occur on E-4.

#5, Plate 77 was the only plate used for E-4, but was used for E-5 as well. Any other plate number used on E-5 is not found on E-4.
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Posted 01/13/2022   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow such great information. I am going to scan the covers later.
Thanks,
Bob
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Posted 01/13/2022   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are 3 covers I have. It looks like two dates 1902 and 1 dated 1900.



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Posted 01/13/2022   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1 - Watermark - Cannot see because on cover
2 - The postmarks are 1902, 1902, and 1900 so technically it could be either
3 - No dots so it could be either
4 - No sure what the lines through Postal Delivery looks like so not sure
5 - No selvage so could be either

Does anyone have a scan of the E5 with the line through Postal Delivery? That may help. Also, I wonder if I put watermark fluid on the stamp would I be able to see a watermark if held up to a light.
Thanks again,
Bob
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