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1929 One And Half Anna's - No Wmk

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Posted 04/14/2023   03:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pshann to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all
Can anyone advise whether the stamp is known with no wmk?
Would appreciate help.
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Posted 04/14/2023   04:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry everyone
Should have posted reverse
My error
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Posted 04/14/2023   04:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Opinion : No
Scott Type A59
Exists as Sc# 103 1926 1.5a Wmk 39 (Rose)
or Sc#109 1929 1.5a Wmk 196 (Carmine Rose)

Gibbons will be a better check.


Sc# 109
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Edited by rod222 - 04/14/2023 04:14 am
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Posted 04/14/2023   04:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod
Thanks for the info.
I'll follow up on your comments
Much appreciated
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Posted 04/14/2023   04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1921: SG 165 1 1/2 As. chocolate exists with watermark inverted, but not listed without watermark
1926: SG 198 1 1/2 As. rose-carmine no watermark variety listed
1929: SG 204 1 1/2 As. rose-carmine exists with watermark inverted, but not listed without watermark

2007 SG Empire.
Your stamp must be either SG198 (wmk star), or SG204 (wmk. multiple stars).
Cancel might be DEC 33.
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Edited by NSK - 04/14/2023 04:51 am
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Posted 04/14/2023   04:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK
Absolutely have no idea
I can't see any trace of a watermark.
Have checked many (20 +) others today - and I can't explain hence seeking help
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Posted 04/14/2023   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp seen from the back: fifth perforation tip at the bottom a line running up towards the right and over 6th perforation tip appears to slope down again to the 9th perforation tip. If this is the watermark, it might be the inverted one. The ordinary one would have a symmetric 'point' pointing upward.
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Posted 04/14/2023   06:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK
The pic of reverse was taken with wmk fluid.
I can't see what you are trying to point out but I will keep investigating
Thankyou
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Posted 04/14/2023   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you're referencing now!
Maybe the postmark from the front?
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Posted 04/14/2023   06:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible it is caused by the postmark.
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Posted 04/14/2023   06:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like most - would assume there would be some evidence of a wmk.
I can't see any
Appreciate your help and input
Will await other comments
Thanks
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Posted 04/14/2023   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's there. NSK was seeing one side of a star "point" leaving the 5th perf, heading more or less northeast. The adjacent side is leaving the same perf heading more or less northwest.



ETA: Thanks to ImageSleuth
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Edited by Cjd - 04/14/2023 09:53 am
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Posted 04/14/2023   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just be aware, not all crown agents stamps reveal watermarks.

Some are void of watermarks, for a variety of reasons.

The Dandy Roll is produced to suit a particular stamp format,
so that the watermark hits around the centre of the stamp image.

On occaisions the dandy roll will be used on a differing stamp format
in cases of emergency printings. Leaving stamps with part watermarks, or none at all.

One needs intimate knowledge of stamps that have this abnormality,
I think some are revealed in Gibbons descriptions.
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Posted 04/14/2023   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone
Appreciate all the help
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Posted 04/14/2023   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to Nsk , cjd & rod
I kept investigating today
And I now see multiple inverted stars
Apologies for the pics
Have learnt a lot - thankyou


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Posted 04/15/2023   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking the same, but wanted the experienced philatelists to voice their thoughts first, that the multiple stars wmk is more likely to be blurred than the single star wmk. It might be a likely option in other wmks when it's hard to see.
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