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Posted 04/05/2024   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BunnyCummins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently won a U.S. stamp album (Copyright was 1916) online and as I was going through it, when I found this towards the back in between two pages that had no stamps on it.. Can anyone help identify the "Type"? Thank you in advance!


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Posted 04/05/2024   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hello123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Im not very good at identifing grills, but its either an 85A, 86, 92
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Posted 04/05/2024   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hello123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe 92 was the most common
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Posted 04/06/2024   12:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not very good with grills either ... but it looks like an F grill to me ... so I would guess 92 as well.
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Posted 04/07/2024   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Use a mm scale and scott cat. To help id your item. the Stampsmarter app may also help.
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Posted 04/07/2024   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has a clear grill of 12 by 17 points, so it's an F grill, Scott #92.
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Posted 04/08/2024   2:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BunnyCummins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So if it is an F, I don't know if anyone here is familiar with stampworld.com but that where I inventory all my stamps. When I go to "1868" stamps for U.S. there is absolutely no option for this stamp. My choice is only the "1867" version. So is it possible the website has misinformation bout the true history or it is in fact a different type grill
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Posted 04/08/2024   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is definitely an F grill; the earliest known use is August 11, 1868.
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Posted 04/08/2024   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suggest you go the www.stampsmarter.org as a source for ID'ing your stamps. Under the search heading key in "grills" and review the one you posted. It is, as stated, an "F" grill. There is a lot of good information on that sight.
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Posted 04/08/2024   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BunnyCummins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you :)
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Posted 04/09/2024   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For identifying grills, it is far better to count the number of rows and columns than to rely on area measurement in mm. Grilled US issues first appeared in 1867 (hence the year used by Stampworld), but the various denominations with different grills appeared at different times during 1867, 1868 and 1869.

With due regard for what it offers in the way of comprehensiveness, Stampworld is not your best bet for researching classic US stamps. StampSmarter (online) and Scott catalogs (hard copy) are a better way to go.
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Posted 04/09/2024   2:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Scott Catalog, particularly for what you show, the US Specialized, can be found in your local library.
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Posted 04/09/2024   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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So if it is an F, I don't know if anyone here is familiar with stampworld.com but that where I inventory all my stamps. When I go to "1868" stamps for U.S. there is absolutely no option for this stamp. My choice is only the "1867" version. So is it possible the website has misinformation bout the true history or it is in fact a different type grill

"Inventory" and "catalog" are two very different things. We are all familiar with stampworld; it is a useful site for attempting to identify the origin and year of issue for a stamp, and that's about it. It orders stamps chronologically, and doesn't use any catalog numbering system. You can't, for example, go to a dealer and ask them for a MNH copy of Germany stampworld #547, for example.
Since it's ultimately a simple system, it does not go into variants of any kind (paper types, plates, printers, errors, watermarks, etc). To suggest stampworld has "misinformation" about the stamp in a way gives the site too much credit; it doesn't have misinformation about the stamp, because it's not supposed to have that kind of information at all.
The resource(s) you need are actual catalogs, such as Scott, Michel, Yvert, etc.
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Edited by classic_paper - 04/09/2024 4:32 pm
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Ich habe 18x14 Grills gezählt.
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Could you use English, please? It's impossible to moderate comments in other languages, and most members won't understand them.
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