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Posted 03/06/2025   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Radman44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can someone explain why this is a 1711c? It does not seem to align with the 11.2 unless I am doing something wrong. The seller said it was a 1711c. I can post a complete picture of the stamp if it's helpful.


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Posted 03/11/2025   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like perforated 11 to me. Sometimes sellers advertising is wrong. There are so many listings I have seen where the stamp is not what the seller says. Sometimes I send a message to the seller telling them so. Not sure if that's appropriate or appreciated.
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Posted 03/17/2025   04:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to consider measuring the perfs along a vertical edge of the stamp. The difference between 11 & 11.2 is quite small. The horizontal perfs match both 11 & 11.2 rather well. The longer side will show the difference, giving the perfs time to slowly wander off the 11 scale.
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Posted 03/17/2025   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of perforation stories are full of holes.
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Posted 03/17/2025   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp you are asking about is Scott 1711, the Colorado Centennial issue.
Scott lists two perforation varieties. They can be differentiated by sight, however because the line-perf variety can also line-up nearly perfect on an occasional corner, it would be good to see your entire stamp and thus erase any doubt as to which one you have. Seeing only one corner is problematic - especially with the gauge images.
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Posted 03/17/2025   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the perforation differences can be seen in the corners of the stamps:

Note the "perfect" corner--



Note the "random" corner


Perforations were applied by different devices.
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Posted 03/17/2025   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I can post a complete picture of the stamp if it's helpful.


Please do so, it always helps. Here it would allow all four corner perforation to be examined.
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Posted 03/17/2025   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Radman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you think?
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Posted 03/17/2025   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the one on the left is the 1711c, bullseye perf 11.2
and the one on the right is the 1711, line perf 11.

Look at the bottom corners of the righthand stamp. In order to be bullseye perfs, the horizontal and vertical perforations should line up perfectly in even rows and columns, but in the bottom corners of the righthand stamp, they don't line up, they are askew/random, like they are off half a beat.

The stamp on the left looks like a better candidate for 1711c. How does it compare to the other on the perf gauge? As you can see, the vertical perforations on the two stamps are not the same gauge.
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