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William Moller & Son Stationary

 
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Posted 07/04/2025   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lalo.Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
... RN-A8 Cut Square ...

Does anybody know if The William Moller & Son stationary has vertical bars/columns visible when held up to the light .?.

I have a RN-A8 Two Cent Purple Cut Square
When held up to the light I can see vertical columns or bars woven into the paper, every other column is lighter then darker than the one next to it. Is this a known marker on William Moller & Son stationary .?.




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Posted 07/04/2025   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is laid paper.
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Posted 07/04/2025   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
my copy is not on laid paper


your cut square looks like it could be a proof. The only type A proof that I see a record of is in black, but it exists on laid paper according to the Einstein, Kingsley and De Kay Handbook for United States Revenue Stamped Paper
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Posted 07/04/2025   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not believe that Moller was the only company to use these stamps. So it might be a proof or possibly a cut square. Hopefully Ron Lesher will post something about this soon, he knows a great deal about revenue stamped paper.
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Posted 07/05/2025   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As to details, both have the dot in the right "2" and the full sheet has a dot in the upper right "S" as does the cut square.The cut square does have a few more dots of ink in the "2."
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Posted 07/05/2025   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is at least one other receipt that has an imprinted RN-A8, Carter, Kirkland. It, too, is not on laid paper. One should note that the receipt and stamp seem to be of the same color, indicating an early order from American Phototype Company when they did both the stamp and the document. This ended in January, 1866 because of a protest of other stationers, who were losing business.

Also note that there is no dot of color in the right 2, evidence that American Phototype had multiple dies so they could print receipts like this in multiples of at least four.



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I am very skeptical that the first image is a proof. I own a number of generally recognized proofs from American Phototype and none are on laid paper.

This observation suggests that the first image is a cut square and therefor there was probably a third user of receipts that were imprinted with a purple Type A stamp. Too bad that a third user of the purple Type A has not been recorded. One might also note that receipts in general are far more difficult to find, because if checks found their way into the philatelic community, it was probably the entire run. Receipts are found in very small number when they are found in the records of a company.
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Thanks for all the input . I just started collecting about 5 years ago . Recently I purchased a lot of 300+ cut squares , mostly postal stationary , postal cards , and then there was this cut square that I did not recognize. A Pixel Lens search lead me to SPQR post 7 years ago, RN-A8 on The William Moller & Son receipt and talk of a Carter Kirkland receipt. Again thanks for the help in identifying the paper type . I will be looking into Einstein, Kingsley and De Kay Handbook for United States Revenue Stamped Paper. With so much to learn the collective knowledge of the group lights the path and sends me on my way ! Thanks
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