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Is there a method of detecting if a grill has been flattened so the stamp appears as non-grilled? I have a potential Scott 125 that I cannot see a grill on. Used watermark solution (per a suggestion) and magnifying glass and no sign of grill. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Not really in a position to submit for expertizing and pay an exorbitant fee to find out it is a manipulated 114. Thanks. 
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Pillar Of The Community
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Quote: If a grill is on a stamp and nobody can see it, is it really there? That is the question. Where a security feature is absent on a different issue that is much rarer, the question becomes is the absence of that feature just a lack of visibility - maybe due to tampering - or was it never there? That is the relevant question. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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1869 grills were often light, and could get pressed out from use, or from being in an album for 150 years. The first thing to do is dip the stamp; instead of looking for a watermark, look for the grill. It will usually show up fairly easily. |
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I did "dip" it in watermark solution and no grill showed up. I saw there might be some enhancing I could do to photos to detect it, but I am not very savvy in that area and wouldn't even know what photo software has those kind of capabilities. |
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You may have to take a photo at a slightly oblique angle. I'm not seeing it, and I don't know if it is possible to definitely tell the difference between no grill, and pressed-out grill. |
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Pillar Of The Community
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It does not help that the 114 is listed as without grill, not to be confused with the no grill 125 reprint.
When dipping, the flash of a grill can be rather quick in the drying process if such was light and pressed out. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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There is no chance at all of this stamp being a 125. Not with that impression. |
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From "Opinions III" published by the Philatelic Foundation, article by Stanley Piller, page 58:  |
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Thanks for the UV tip. Based on that, it is a 114, but possibly one of the rare grill less ones. More than likely just a 114 with the grill pressed out. Thanks for the all the responses!!! |
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