Find This? Italian

Right! thanks Peter, I thought possibly "Current price"

I am more familar with the dual purpose "CV" Current value, or Catalogue value

my fault, I meant current price and thanks

any feedback to the 5c and the 20c?thanks

Beyond my knowledge.
Marca da Bollo stamps are revenues,
I do not know of any online source to identify a vast catalogue of these.

The Postmark on the 5c looks very interesting, not seen that before.
Keep us posted if you locate information.

thanks I will once I'll find it

the 2c Italian stamp I just uploaded from1874 is it specimen

It's an 1874 issue for Italian offices abroad, Scott #2. Italy later overprinted stamps for the individual offices by city or area.

so it's the stamp from 1865 and in 1874 overprinted estero as specimen and afterwords overprinted with exact colonies name or I'm totally mixing things up

It is always wise, to search our knowledge base first.

If you searched "Estero" and "subject only"
you would get this thread, and learn about "estero"
Good Luck.

https://goscf.com/t/52107&SearchTerms=estero

If you haven't looked it up yet, it's not a specimen. Estero means "abroad".

By (I think) 1902, stamps overprinted "ESTERO" were no longer in use. Instead, newer Italian stamps of the period were overprinted "ALBANIA", "Pechino" (Beijing in China), "Constantinopoli" (Constantinople/Istanbul), etc. for the Italian post offices (owned and run by Italy) in those places.

The basic Italian 2c stamp might have been first issued in 1865, but it was in use for years, with multiple printings. So it was a current stamp when Italy decided to open post offices in other countries and issue special stamps for them. That 2c stamp design was not replaced until the late 1870s.

perfectly explained thank you so much

The "ESTERO" stamps weren't overprinted on standard Italian postage designs but on new versions which had design differences in the corners.

In this 2c stamp each corner has a white square area (with a very small coloured square at its centre).

The regular Italian 2c design doesn't have these white squares. Instead, the Greek key pattern continues into the corner areas.

yes now I see it didnt notice it before thanks

any opinion regarding perf and ovprt shifts are welcome

Good question raised iStamp! I was facing the same kind of questions when I was working on Italy...

Your left stamp, Sassone cat no 79, is listed with the variety 79g - with description "Dentellatura orizzontale fortemente spostata in senso verticale" (Horizontal perforation strongly moved vertically). My question would be - how many millimeters should the perforation shift be in order to be this variety?

The similar applies for the right stamp, which could potentially be the variety Sassone no 139h, vertically shifted overprint.

I found a few stamps with similar kind of shifting as in your examples, and I came to the conclusion the shifts were not significant to be the listed varieties. I could be wrong - and unfortunately I cannot see that Sassone specifies the 'criteria' for the shifts - Would appreciate if any expert would enlighten us

wanderfull reply and great point highlighted it's like you saw my thoughts

Sometimes catalogs are like Greek gods they give out indications, but they are very hard on the details it's like the song " Ain't no mountain high Ain't no valley low
Ain't no river wide enough...

Such is the life of stamp nerds like us - we're in the same boat facing the same kind of obstacles on our voyage

I hope someone can help you with the missing but vital details


edit - BTW - Nice to meet you iStamp

I guess you're right and I do believe that soon one of the experts in Italy stamps will reply to our screams for help

can someone share any information regarding the postmark cancel on the uploaded 5c 1874 estero overprinted stamp thanks



BTW it's nice meeting you too Blaamand