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Heligoland 1/2 Schilling

 
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Posted 09/08/2010   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add robinbouc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
i'm french (so sorry for my bad english), and have an old stamps albums inherited from my grand-father.
I've started to list all my stamps (very very long !), and found an (maybe) interesting stamp from Heligoland.
It seems to be a 1867 1/2 schilling (the year is written aside the stamp), but how to be sure ?
Thx

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Posted 09/08/2010   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bonjour RobinBouc,

See at this link... maybe it can help you

Ce lien pourra peut-être vous aider (il y a différentes variétés) :)

http://www.allworldstamps.com/resul...range=N&pg=1
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Edited by cdnum - 09/08/2010 12:09 pm
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Posted 09/08/2010   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prince Afa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Il y a pas mal de gens qui parlent francais ici!

Welcome! This is the most "International" board that I participate in.

Don't worry about your English - we'll figure it out!
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Edited by Prince Afa - 09/08/2010 2:31 pm
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Posted 09/08/2010   2:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
interesting, one of those stamps that is worth more used then unused.
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Posted 09/08/2010   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oui, Quelques-uns d'entre nous parlent un peu français ici. Je reviens tout juste de rendre visite à ma famille à Montréal. Belle île d'Helgoland timbre!

Yes, Some of us speak some french here. I just returned from visiting my family in Montreal. Beautiful Heligoland stamp you have!
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Posted 09/08/2010   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a warning (in English, as my French is non-existent), 95% of these stamps are reprints and forgeries. Assume it's one or the other! However, I've asked a friend of mine, and expert in Heligoland, to assess it for you and I'll report back.
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Posted 09/08/2010   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Subject to correction from someone who knows what they are talking about, I'd say it is a reprint. I believe the originals were rouletted 10x10, and yours appear to be compound. If you can determine the actual rouletting, you can distinguish between the reprints. Originals go for beaucoup bucks, but the reprints are collectible in their own rights.
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Posted 09/08/2010   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a Mi #1 Head type 2 Berlin Reprint.
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Posted 09/08/2010   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing knowledge!
Collin how did you ascertain that it is a compound?
(I'd like to know what to look for)
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Posted 09/09/2010   12:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I made a tick on a Post-It note at the beginning of each roulette along the top edge, then turned the Post-It 90 degrees to see if they lined up with the roulettes along the edge, and they didn't...

Originals and most reprints measure 10 horizontally, but some reprints are nines, so I didn't bother to try to calculate the vertical measurement. Berlin and Hamburg differ by only half a roulette vertically (11.5 vs. 12), so that is beyond my tolerance for playing around with a scan.
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Posted 09/09/2010   01:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add robinbouc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I didn't expected so much answsers ! Thx all !
I found interesting informations on the website : http://www.fritzwagner.com/helgolan..._Stamps.html
I'll try to find if it's a reprint or not. Not easy for a beginner like me !
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Posted 09/09/2010   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the reply from my friend, who IS a serious collector of Heligoland

"Hi - If it is genuine it should show as Dark Green and Violet Rose under UV light and Bluish Green and Deep Rose under daylight.

However it is hard to judge colours on a computer screen so you need the item in hand to be sure.

This stamp has very sharp looking roulette perforations and this is very indicative of Reprints.

As a qualified guess I would initially class this one as a REPRINT - most likely Hamburg."

Hope that helps!
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Posted 09/09/2010   07:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add robinbouc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a Hamburg reprint to. I've rapidely compared my scan with colors on this page (http://www.fritzwagner.com/helgolan...arisons.html), and it looks like the Hamburg one.
And roulette perforations are IMO too precise to be genuine.
I'll check with UV light later (I dont'i have one yet).
Thx for all these explanations !
I hope all my others stamps are easier to identify
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Posted 09/09/2010   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I would initially class this one as a REPRINT - most likely Hamburg."


This is a Type 2 head that along with the Compound Roulette makes it a Lipzeg Reprint.

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