New York, NY Precancels (The Same Or Different?)

Are these NY, NY precancels the same or are they different? They have the same size bars and the same size/style font, however, the spacing between "New" and "York" is noticeably different:

different - the narrow one is 255(s7) the wide one is L-25E (s8)

Thanks.

This one had me a bit puzzled as I figured out the left right one would have been a Type 255, but had nothing to compare the right left example to.

By the way, what do the (s7) and (s8) figures represent? Size?

"s" denotes the length of the state, including spaces, in millimeters.

Thanks. I knew there had to be a simple explanation.

Thought I'd add to this thread by posting these two similar (but different) New York, NY precancels on Scott #561:



First, there's a distinct color difference between the two examples (even though scans don't do it justice). Is this just a color changeling or could it be one of the varieties noted in the Scott Catalog (i.e. rose vs. pale rose)?

Secondly, there is a distinct difference between in the New York, NY precancel overprint, especially noticed in the line "N. Y." Including periods, the State name in the left example is 10 mm; the right example 9.5 mm.

Any comments on these differences would be appreciated. Thanks.

I can't comment on the color difference, however both of the overprints are definitely L-5 E.

L-5 have four varieties. I believe the left is Var. 2, the state is 10.5mm long and the spacing between the state and the bottom line is 2mm. The right one is probably Var. 4, the state is 9mm long and the spacing between the state and the bottom line is also 2mm.

BTW, for your info, Var 1 and 3 are the same respectfully with Var 2 and 4, except that the spacing between the state and the bottom line are 1mm.

If Var 2 had bars instead of lines, then it would be an L-6 E.

Frankie

Thanks for the info. I will note it for these stamps.

without measuing in person its not an exact science, but I'd say the stamp on left is Scott:641 on right scott:561

I think you're right. After more careful measure with a perf. gauge, the left example is perf. 11 x 10.5 which would make it Scott #641; the right is clearly perf. 11 all around which would be a #561.

As for the Scott #561 (right example) it is a much deeper color than many of my other #561's, and as I mentioned earlier, Scott Specialized shows a "Rose" and "Pale Rose" variety (no difference in value). Could that be what I have or is it just a printing anomaly that would have made the noticeable (deeper) difference in color?