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Posted 02/24/2013   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add artlaunier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In my opinion, The Bank Notes are some of the more UGULY of the U.S. stamps issued. American or National, they all lack artistic appeal. Consequently, In the past I just ignored and never bothered collecting the notes

Not considering that they come between the 1869 Pictorials and the 1893 Colombians. How would you rate their artistic appeal?

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Posted 02/24/2013   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are a rather attractive series. A particularly like the 6 and 24 cent. The Nationals are more appealing with brighter colors and overall better quality impressions.
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Posted 02/25/2013   02:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I too think that the Banknotes are attractive. It's true they do lack the ornateness of the Colombians or the pictorials but they have an appeal all there own and a whole ream of books on paper types, inks, secret marks, colors and the like, and make for a way more interesting study than the aforementioned series.
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Posted 02/25/2013   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dmilkman207 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the Banknotes, I have most of them (used) a couple of the higher values are still on my want list.(141,143,144) The issues I do not like are #219-#229. I think they are too small.
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Posted 02/25/2013   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It bears noting that in your question, you are comparing a series of Definitives with one (some say two) series of Commemoratives.

Definitive stamps often pale next to commemorative issues.
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Posted 02/25/2013   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Compared to anything printed in my lifetime, they are works of art.
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Posted 02/25/2013   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Only the three cent and four cent Columbians are really attractive anyway, the rest are either too crowded or you have to look at Queen Isabella who bore half the responsibility for the Spanish Inquisition (shudder).
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Posted 02/25/2013   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Only the three cent and four cent Columbians are really attractive anyway, the rest are either too crowded or you have to look at Queen Isabella who bore half the responsibility for the Spanish Inquisition (shudder)


I was not expecting the Spanish Inquisition [/MONTYPYTHON]

Anyways, I agree, the bank note issues lack the charm of America's earlier issues. Most are too washed out to really appreciate. Btw, has anyone sorted out the right mount to use with them?
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Posted 02/26/2013   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I was not expecting the Spanish Inquisition [/MONTYPYTHON]


NOBODY expects the Spanish inquisition!
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Posted 02/26/2013   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Btw, has anyone sorted out the right mount to use with them?


I use size 28 Showgard strips cut to the proper width.

And to Art's initial question, in comparison with some of the modern U.S. issues I would categorize the banknotes as works of art.
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Posted 02/26/2013   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Quote:
I was not expecting the Spanish Inquisition [/MONTYPYTHON]
NOBODY expects the Spanish inquisition!


*Resisting the urge to launch into extended monologue*



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Posted 02/26/2013   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like how "plain" the large banknotes are and the colors are just fantastic! The baby banknotes are another long time favorite just because of all the different variants{types and colors}and the like.






Quote:
*Resisting the urge to launch into extended monologue*


Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?..
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Posted 02/27/2013   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They aren't the most beautiful stamps in the world, but for that time period they compare pretty well and are still attractive today. They present the image of a nation that is serious and determined to succeed economically, which tempers my judgement of their aesthetics. They sure as heck are more beautiful than the garbage the USPS has put out for the past 30 years.
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Posted 06/22/2013   05:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last few nights I've been working on identifying glassines of banknotes and for the first time actually enjoying it.

I've been lining them up on my scanner, scanning them at 1200 dpi and comparing them to the 1847usa examples for the secret marks and colors. And comparing them to some in my album that either I or someone else previously identified and have come across several mistakes so far. Enough that I'm actually thinking of taking all of them out of my album, throwing them in a pile and starting over.

Only thing I can't really figure out yet are paper types. The guide on 1847 is great but I just can't get it down. The flicking near my ear kinda works but I'm not 100% confident in my judgement. The light behind also kinda works but I can sort of see certain differences but again lack the confidence.

Are there any other ways to know? Is there anything that can be done by scanning them to see the differences? Like contrast adjustments or something along those lines?

I'm really enjoying these right now but getting a bit frustrated with the paper types
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Posted 06/22/2013   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mudrat.detector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Long time lurker, first time poster - and I love that this topic pulled me in. These are great, in my opinion, not only for the design and vivid colors, but for the wide range of fancy cancels that are on my copies. I am almost more of a fan of that aspect than the stamps themselves. Almost.
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Posted 06/22/2013   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I may not exactly call them ugly, but to me, some of the designs seem . . . uninspired.
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