My Most Recent Stamp- Scott #30A

My newest acquisition is a Scott #30A. I just had to have it when I saw it. I don't have it in hand yet but the sellers scan is nice enough to show.

I_Love_Stamps - Great stamp and looks centring quiet good too. Few missing corners and slight possibility that it might be re-perforated but I would love to have it anyway.

Here is an image of mine latest one:








Its seems to me that description is quiet inaccurate but I took a gamble anyway.

Still it's a nice stamp you got there as long as you didn't fork out 5K for it! I overlooked the nerfed perfs up top because it shows the complete design and wears a SOTN cancel in blue ink. It might actually be a #30 because of the color that's another reason I forked out 80. for it. I don't think it was re-perforated. I looked pretty close at it and the seem legit. Like I said I'll have to wait until I get it in-hand to give it a once-over. If it don't check out then I'll simply get my money back. Anyhow, I like it enough that I'm planning on just keeping it regardless. It displays nice and you can see the whole design. It works for me. Thank you.

I forked out $70 and I am keeping it regardless of outcome to. I love early designs and this one will be appreciated in my collection regardless of its value. Cert for it is must have but I am sure that will determine right scott number as soon its arrives from overseas.

WOW! Definitely for $70. you can't really go wrong especially if it pans out huh? Nice stuff popping up lately isn't there? Congrats and I feel the same way about the classic designs! There was just such attention to detail and the beautiful colors are second to none in my mind anyway. -Jeff

Gladiators001, your one-cent Franklin looks like a #24. Left and Right side ornaments are mostly incomplete. I believe Type III has mostly complete ornaments on both sides. Also, 99R2 according to Scott, has a $20,000 value. Take a look at the #21, 99R2s in the Siegel census sight. www.siegelauctions.com >tools & resources >census data and scroll down to and click on the photo of #21 99R2 and compare it.

Gladiators001,

I had the item in my watch list. Unfortunately, you are just another 1c buyer that has been taken by a greedy dealer preying on the hopeful and inexperienced. The stamp is an F relief, Scott #24. You will be lucky if the stamp is even sound. I actually have a 99R2 that I can sell you but I am afraid I am not going to let it go for $70 :)

sinclair2010 - I do not claim that it is #21, I took a gamble knowing that it may turn out to be #24 with 70% certainty from picture given , I do not want your #21 as I have one already and certified, You can keep your sarcasm and arrogance to your self. Its all about beauty of the stamps not treasure.

I fail to see that part of his response. What he pointed out is simply the truth in that it is not a type III as the seller passed it off to be. I would think an apology is in order here.

You can try to get apologies from the seller as I do not state in any words that it is #21 and as I stated under neat of the picture "Its seems to me that description is quiet inaccurate but I took a gamble anyway."

I am understanding a words: "hopeful and inexperienced" and "I actually have a 99R2 that I can sell you but I am afraid I am not going to let it go for $70 :)"- as sarcasm and arrogance towards me.

World English Dictionary

Arrogance - an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people

— adj
having or showing an exaggerated opinion of one's own importance, merit, ability, etc; conceited; overbearingly proud: an arrogant teacher ; an arrogant assumption

[C14: from Latin word to claim as one's own; see arrogate ]

I_Love_Stamps, That's a nice full image stamp with no noticeable faults with a nice SON. It display's nicely.

Gladiators001,

I am just trying to help. You should consider yourself fortunate that people like me are willing to give their valuable time and knowledge. I do so with zero compensation and sometimes even zero appreciation, obviously. I don't need to get out the dictionary to understand that when you say you "took a gamble", you weren't sure what you were buying and that you hoped you would get some return on your investment. If I am wrong and you always pay 3 to 4 times what stamps are worth, then I apologize and say you must be a very well-liked buyer!

Instead of showing off stamps that you paid too much for, why don't you show us your certified #21?

Sinclair! How have you been? I know your a guru with the 1¢ Blue Ben's and a whiz at the 3¢ Washington's but what do know about the colors on the 5¢ Tommy? This was listed as a #30A (design A22) and the seller stated "The color looks like a 28 to me." however, the #28 is an imperforate stamp (design A11) and has the whole design does it not? Also, I suspect it may be a #30 orange Brown as Dark Brown is a lot deeper and more mono-toned I think. What do you think?

EDIT: added auction link - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scott-30A-5...p=true&rt=nc

I just want to say that I know Mr Sinclair for years and he is a very knowledgeable and helpful person on several different philatelic discussion boards. And he is correct to the extent that people like him are willing to give their expertise to those who know far less, for no compensation to them for either their time or knowledge. Without people like him, most discussion boards would languish and die because the novices usually do not wish to take the time and/or expense to learn more than what they can read in a standard catalog.

The original picture of the common #24 and the poster's comments sure did sound to me as though he was bragging about the description being wrong, but buying it anyway, which certainly would indicate he felt like he was getting the better of the deal. Why else would anyone want to pay well over the Scott value for an online purchase where the true condition of the item can not be determined 90% of the time?
So I believe Sinclair's supposition was correct. If he came across a bit sarcastically, it can probably be attributed to what he felt was the tone of the poster.

But bottom line is that kindness begets kindness. He is a good man. I can personally vouch for that fact.

And in response to the photo of the 5c 1860 stamp, it is a 30A, as described (assuming the color I see in my monitor is accurate). #30 is more orange brown than brown. This once clearly looks brown. It does have some condition issues which can be clearly seen, but if it doesn't also have hidden defects (like thins, tears, etc) then the price paid was fair. Not a bargain, but fair.

Hey Bill! Wow a star studded event! Thank you Mr. Weiss. I did see the corners and perf issues but I was willing to overlook those simply because the whole design is shown and the blue SOTN cancel. If it's got more going on when I get in my possession eg: thins, tears, creases, etc.. Then I'll return it and get my money back and the search will continue. Thank you for your color tutelage Mr. Weiss A 30A is still needed in m collection so I'm happy with that.

Also, I don't wish to really get involved in the dispute but I can tell you first hand that both these guys are great stores of knowledge and I don't think there is any stamp site on the net worth their salt that one of the two aren't mentioned in some form or fashion.

This is a good thread because it epitomizes the dilemma of interfacing with different types and levels of experience of folks in our beloved hobby. Every forum has to deal with this kind of diverse and eclectic mix of users and readers and in many ways it reflects on how the forum (and even the hobby) is perceived.

On the one hand it gets tiresome for highly experienced folks to respond to the constant posting of threads stating that a person has quit their job, divorced the wife and is planning on retiring on that Inverted Jenny or 1 cent British Guiana they found. On the other hand constantly pissing in the Wheaties of hopeful folks can certainly have a negative effect.

Obviously facts need to be presented and reality checks are often in order; for the most part posters in this forum excel at being maintaining the delicate balance between truthfulness and friendliness. I encourage everyone to read the posts carefully and if you take an exception to something said, seek clarification or assume that nothing bad was implied.
The only regrets that I have had in my life are missing opportunities of kindness.
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