Two Inverted Jennies On Ebay

I think he meant to say from 1 July 2015 to 20 July 2099

Are they even the real original inverted Jennies? Their condition looks to good to be the real stamps, maybe these are fakes? Why would you not send them into a big name auction house in America if they were real? Something fishy with both listings?

Of course they are not real. Whether the fraudster has even bothered to cut them from an auction catalogue is doubtful. They may well exist only as digital pictures. See the other thread.

They are real. Google the slabbed Jenny and you'll find that it was sold in 2007 for not quite $1 million. They're just not his to sell. Small technicality.

Someone should go to report item and select prohibited, there is then a section for fake stamps coins and the more people that report these fake listings to ebay the better. No way would I even risk a bid on either.

He has posted new images in his link to 'prove' he has the actual items shown. But his attempts at 'Photochopping' are quite poor. Navigate to his link and find the images of his hand holding the slabbed Inverted jenny. The click on and next slabbed image; note how the image is identical except for the slabbed part. He has 'Photochopped' the slabbed part of the image in each picture, his hand never moves a fraction of an inch from one image to the next (which is impossible). You would think if a person is trying to pull a large scam they would not be that lazy and would take several pictures so this would not be discovered. Only thing worse than a scammer is a lazy scammer.
Don

Edit; here are two of the same image that he has manipulated, note how they are identical (background, hand position, shadows, woodgrain) except for the slabbed part.

No one seems to be taking this seriously enough to report the auctions someone who may actually do something. I will repeat the post from the other thread.

When fraud is suspected, contacting the seller may not be a good idea. Since ebay does not seem to be responding promptly to fraud reports, try contacting the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) at http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I suspect that ebay would take some sort of action if the IC3 can be persuaded to contact them.

Clark

Clark,
In regards to these listings, my efforts have been limited to contacting the seller and working with ebay. Neither have been fruitful so you are probably right about using a different approach. But we have a diffusion of responsibility here, everyone is waiting for someone else to elevate this issue to other authorities. Some of us simply blow it off with the 'buyer beware' and are gratefully that THEY know better than to bid of listings like these. But the truth is that these kinds of scams hurt our hobby. I have to go to chemo today but if I have the time (and am feeling up to it) I'll complete the report for the ICC this afternoon.
Don

The seller is located in France - will the IC3 still act?

Good question, but how would you know?

File the report, and then treat the perp as a scammer out for his jollies torqueing people s/he thinks will fall for it. S/He feeds on the uproar. Law enforcement won't show their hand until they think they have a case they can prosecute.

I wish I had Photoshop. I'd have some fun with the hand in that picture, showing it holding various famous and well-known items, such as the Hope Diamond, rare and expensive coins, works of art, etc.

One of the auctions ended early

This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.

Someone made him an offer away from ebay, who ever did buy it maybe in for a bad shock, if they ever get the item.

Not necessarily what that means anymore. ebay changed a few years ago that when you end an auction early with bids on it, the current high bidder is the winner.

It was Ebays way to still collect fees when an auction is cancelled

What would be the point of him ending it early if he has to sell to the current highest bidder when he ends it to soon? He could just has easily hit cancel sale and on sell it privately which I bet he is doing.

like I said, you can't just cancel sale anymore and walk away. He obviously doesn't have to sell them as ebay can't make you do anything but he will have to pay the fees at least.

I believe the only way he can get out of the fees would be for him to end up mutually cancelling the sale with his shill account but ebay may have found a way to beat that as well. But that I'm not sure of