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Is This A Third Inverted Jenny Stamp Now For Sale?

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Posted 07/03/2015   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe one of these days Interpol or someone will catch up with him and he'll get a long vacation somewhere. Though probably not Polynesia this time.
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Posted 07/03/2015   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The items are real....not copies.
He "photoshops" his hand into the photo....


Actually, Kevin, it's more artfully done than that. The plastic pages and the light reflections do not change either, but the sizes of the notes and the amount of background they show do change. This suggests that closely cropped images of the notes and the PCGS labels are being overlaid onto a stock page of notes that are each small enough to allow for a lot of background. That detail in variation helps lend to the appearance of authenticity.

If you followed what I just said, then you can probably figure out what the fix would be to the uniform appearance of the unchanging parts of the pics. Don't post it here for the perp to read, if s/he is following this.

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Posted 07/03/2015   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I removed the perforation to get a better look at the bottom line of the stamp that it was attached to..As you can see, the arrows point to the exact place where that ebay seller had on his sellers site..He stole the image from the Robert A. Siegal auction house..Nice try though..


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Posted 07/04/2015   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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He stole the image from the Robert A. Siegal auction house.
Yes, I had already pointed that out above, in posting the banner image from Siegal.
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Posted 07/04/2015   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
He's on the hook for 10% of the final price in fees. With all the reports filed and now feedback left, it's gonna be a bit more difficult mutually cancelling the deal

and funny, that same winner is winning the banknote auction. There's another 10% fee if he wins that.

This guy won't be on ebay much longer because you know he won't be paying those fees.

Obviously not too bright and it will end up costing him some money instead of making some

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Posted 07/04/2015   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike33: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that there was a reasonably "low" cap on an ebay sale. If 10% exceeds that cap, I would assume that the seller would only be liable for the amount up to the cap. But I admit, I'm not that familiar with ebay's rules. I could easily be wrong.
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Posted 07/04/2015   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe he's planning on staying on 'vacation' until just before the eBay/PayPal deadline for complaints, then 'shipping' via a slow method to take it past the deadline. That way the buyer won't have recourse.
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Posted 07/04/2015   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Checking ebay fee calculator:

In stamps a $5000 sale would be $500
A $10,000 sale would be $750

so there is a cap somewhere in there or the percentages drop over a certain amount but it's still a hefty fee for a non-legitimate sale
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Posted 07/05/2015   05:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The banknote lot just ended with a snipe bid of $11,400.

Makes one wonder if stamp collectors are more astute than coin collectors

http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-12-u...6&rmvSB=true
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Posted 07/05/2015   05:32 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not very au fait with ebay mechanics (despite selling there). Is there any means of a third party's contacting the buyer and warning him/her (assuming S/HE's legitimate)?
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Posted 07/05/2015   05:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the scammer seller will not accept Paypal for payment. Hopefully the buyer (if legitimate) with 2300+ feedback will know better than to pay with Western Union or another means of money transfer. If not, it will be a very expensive lesson leaving him/her with zero ebay buyer protection.

As far as I know, there's no way to contact the buyer. Ironically, one of the reasons ebay did away with direct contact was to prevent scamming.

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Posted 07/05/2015   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny is right - no way to contact buyer. Which is why it is so much easier for the ethically-challenged to get away with this stuff. In the "old" days, you could easily contact the buyer and simply ask "Are you aware you just bought fake stamps" or something similar, which in most cases would result in the buyer cancelling the sale. No more. Now the buyer, unless covered by PP or CC protection, is screwed. This is how the "British Cartel" has flourished for all these years. You can't contact a buyer, so Stamp Smarter remains the only medium available to report bad listings.
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Posted 07/05/2015   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I still wonder if the PSE would have some recourse
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Posted 07/05/2015   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What harm has PSE suffered?

Not every wrong has a remedy.
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Posted 07/06/2015   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PSE has had their name associated with the scammer by having their product (expertized, graded and slabbed stamps) used to help pretend the scammer has the real deal.
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