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Posted 10/01/2010   11:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add gord to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So is there a general rule about pairs ,4's etc In terms of value?
Are stamps that are still attached to each other better than say a single.Of course it depends on the stamp but just in general I mean.
Is 5 better than 4 together like that.3 better than 2?
Thanks
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Posted 10/01/2010   11:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coil stamps are often stored in pairs. A coil pair can be a line pair, having a line of color in the perforated area between the stamps making the pair more desirable. As for stamps in a pane or sheet, these are often collected as blocks of 4.
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Posted 10/01/2010   11:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking very generally, and considering this question is in the modern ww forum, I'd say that for the more-common stamps, anything more than one is often priced as a straight multiple. A block of six for a 40-cent stamp is probably $2.40, from a catalogue point of view. (It shouldn't necessarily hold true for the twenty-centers, but who is going to argue?)

There might be fewer buyers for larger blocks, because more buyers are only interested in having one stamp. I believe King George V started the popularity of collecting blocks of four. They're nice to look at.

Anyway, there are so many exceptions, that this couldn't even be called a rule.
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Posted 10/02/2010   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course, when you have more than one design in the sheet, like these current issue Christmas Island/Australian 60c stamps:



you may want to keep the designs together as pairs, or whatever.

I regularly send out oversized letters, requiring $1.20 in postage, and I either use a pair with both designs, or a pair with the single design, and with the gutter showing the 'traffic lights' between.
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Posted 10/05/2010   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gord to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does it make any difference if the stamps are older? like before 1970?
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Posted 10/05/2010   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gord, it probably depends how much earlier, before 1970. Do you have any particular item in mind that you could show us?
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Posted 10/09/2010   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gord to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tony I have a full sheet of scott#417 and some partial sheets of scotts#422 ,423 etc. Are they worth more in partial sheets or does it really matter? ex: is ,say 5 or 7 stamps together better than say a block of four ?
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Posted 10/09/2010   04:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gord, as my avatar might suggest , I know nothing at all about US stamps. I'll leave it to the US specialists to comment on your specific examples.

However, as a general rule, the older the stamp, the more difficult it is to find in multiples. You might blench at the sight of this sheet of the 1868 Jammu & Kashmir ½ Anna and 1 Anna



As singles, the four stamps are catalogued at (a healthy) £54/$US90 in Stanley Gibbons. I had to pay around £1000 for the sheet. Why? Because intact sheets of four (three of the ½ Anna and one 1 Anna) are in the hens' teeth class.

On the other hand, I'd be over the moon to get half catalogue value (of £224/$US375) for this block of 64 of the Hyderabad 1 Anna Service stamp of 1917:



Very old stamps in multiples tend to be hard to find; not so old, not so hard to find, and anything post-World War II, not likely to fetch any premium for multiples. (Of course, there are exceptions ...)
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Posted 10/09/2010   04:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi gord,

In general I prefer imperforate stamps as pairs or larger blocks, when I can find them. At least it proves they are imperforate and not a perforate stamp whose perfs are cut off. Also if two stamps are separated by a gutter I will entertain the possibility of purchasing the pair. It goes without saying se-tenant pairs, or blocks, should not be broken apart.

In my collecting area there are some stamps that are imperforate between, vertically or horizontally. Those I keep together.

Jerry B
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Posted 10/09/2010   05:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
another note on pairs when collecting early South Africa and South West Africa - The stamps were printed bi-lingually(english and afrikaans) in the sheet and are collected in pairs, one of each language - the singles are worth a lot less. What I do find odd is that horizontal pairs are worth more than vertical pairs ?

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Posted 10/09/2010   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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What I do find odd is that horizontal pairs are worth more than vertical pairs ?


This is just a guess, but it is probably because the vertical pair would consist of two stamps of same language whereas the horizontal pair depicted both languages.
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Posted 10/09/2010   09:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tomiseksj the vertical pairs also have two different languages - Heres a block of six showing how the two languages are laid out.



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Posted 10/09/2010   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Tomiseksj the vertical pairs also have two different languages


Then could it be that vertical pairs are more common due to a greater tendency to remove stamps from a sheet by vertical, rather than horizontal column?

How great is the price differential for this issue?

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Posted 10/26/2010   12:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Late reply - as I was going through my catalogue last night I've read it both in my SACC and SG. Example Silver Jubilee 1935 it is quoted at being 60% cheaper for vertical pairs. And then for some South Africa officials - 30%-40% cheaper. Quite steep for the same stamps. It would make sense to collect the stamps vertically as they have less chance of separating.
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Posted 10/26/2010   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a matter of esthetics.
I also prefer horizontal pairs over vertical, it just looks better, at least to me anyway.
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Posted 10/26/2010   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought many an early US stamp (1900+-) directly from a dealer's stock book. I've never had one that wouldn't separate a pair of run-of-the-mill issues to make the sale of one. There are always exceptions of course.
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