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Posted 10/26/2010   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wien, I believe is Austria. Can anyone ID this particular stamp?

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Posted 10/26/2010   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe?

Austria 1863 5 Kreuzer Coat of arms postage

I have an empty space for it :) 1863 5k rose...
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Edited by Edwin - 10/26/2010 5:24 pm
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Posted 10/26/2010   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice SON Vienna cancellation!
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Posted 10/26/2010   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! The stamp as well as the cancel.
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Posted 10/26/2010   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Austria 1863 (late) Perf 9.5
Arms of Austria
engraver: tautenhayn (embossed)

Yours (at first without watermark but from
June 1864 wmked "brief-marken" in double lined capitals
in middle of each sheet

Note! look for vertically laid paper = valuable stamp

If perf 14 =May 1863

All 5 values were reprinted in 1884 perf 13
the 5 kreuzer again in 1894 perf 13.5


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Posted 11/16/2010   04:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tholath to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this an Austria stamp. It was in the Austria lot I had got.....



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Posted 11/16/2010   05:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tholath to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamps that were in the lot...








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Posted 11/16/2010   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Is this an Austria stamp. It was in the Austria lot I had got

Yes, it is Austria #32 in the Scott catalog -- however, you will need to do the final color and perforation determination to figure out which minor catalog number it may be.

Similar design with the currency in soldi instead of kreuzer are Austrian offices in the Turkish Empire.
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Posted 02/02/2011   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
*Bump*


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The first stamp Rod shows has a very interesting postmark .

The town Sambor, also known as Sambir, is currently in western Ukraine, the region of Galacia.

From Wikipedia:

In 1772, Sambir was annexed by the Austrian Empire, and it remained part of that country until 1918, when the area of the city saw Polish - Ukrainian fights over Eastern Galicia. In 1919, Sambir, known in Polish as Sambor, it de jure became part of the Second Polish Republic, until its 1939 annexation by the Soviet Union. From 1941 to 1944 Nazi Germany occupied the town, and after World War Two, it was taken over by the Soviets, formally joining the Ukrainian SSR. It was home to Sambir air base during the Cold War. It has been part of independent Ukraine since 1991.


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Posted 02/02/2011   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wowww, finaly. Very fine stamps. And: take a look at these . If these Aystrian stamps were cancelled in Hungarian places, they are considered Hungarian stamps (last two for ex- Austria, with `Pesth` cancellation- Budapest). Any time you find such stamps, let me have a look at them

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Posted 02/02/2011   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wadmalatz, Nice stamps, I am starting to collect Austro-Hungarian stamps with cancels in countries that are now independent. I bought some recently at an auction and when they come I will show them. One nice stamp I have now is from Fiume:




Fiume is now part of Croatia, called Rijeka.
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Edited by BeeSee - 02/02/2011 3:59 pm
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Posted 02/02/2011   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, really nice postmark. It`s Fiume N.M. (Nachmittag- p.m.)This postmark was used only 1 year (between 1869-1870). In the `Classic Postmarks of Hungary` by Gudlin Tamas you can find plenty of information. (it`s in Hungarian-English-German). If you plan to seriously collect Austro-Hungarian or classical Hungarian stamps, this book (catalogue) is a `must-have`. It's easy to use, with plenty of information. Thank for sharing.
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Posted 02/02/2011   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information.
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Posted 02/02/2011   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful stamp, Bee. Now my dilemma is, do I look for a copy of Classic Postmarks of Hungary? Sounds interesting, and daunting, all at once.
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Posted 02/02/2011   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd, I checked on ebay, only one, a BIN for $113 plus $20 shipping from Hungary - not cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.com/150470634743
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Posted 02/02/2011   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some time ago navigating I found a web page of a Hungarian Stamp collecting club or society (?) in the USA (I can`t remember it`s name). Maybe they can help you get it from somewhere.
Gudlin T.:`Magyarorszag klasszikus postabelyegzoi-Classical Postmarks of Hungary-Die Klassischen Poststempel von Ungarn` 2004. Mine is a gift from relatives from Hungary. But if you can find it, just show me a picture of the postmark, or describe it, and will gladly help. I love classic hungarian stamps, although I don`t have really rare or high CV hungarian stamps in my collection, but plenty of literature.
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