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Cuba And A Fancy Cancel?

 
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Posted 01/29/2011   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bfranton to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are a few early Cuban stamps I found today. Once more, I'm in the can you help ID / etc since Scott Specialized doesn't go back this far. .












Also do not know if this is actually a cancel... or something else


Thanks
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Posted 01/29/2011   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually just found another. It surely is a pretty way to obliterate the image on the stamp!

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Posted 01/29/2011   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 overprints are on the same stamp the first you posted has color change. First op Scott 106 Second op Scott 115.
Stamp 1 Scott 10 (green) 2 others (2 & 13) gray green diff wmk, no. 2 ?, No. 3 Scott 20, No. 4 Scott 48, No. 5 Scott 104
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Edited by Russ - 01/29/2011 6:20 pm
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Posted 01/29/2011   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow -- those are nice.
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Posted 01/29/2011   7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! So the first overprint is supposed to be the color of the second? Is this type of color change common? Due to wood fibers or?
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Posted 01/29/2011   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Barb, I don't know how common it is with these stamps. A lot of this can be from moisture or sunlight. The center of the color change in darker with the bluish gray tint. I really like the ornate overprint. Nice stamps thanks for posting.
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Posted 01/29/2011   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, on the subject of overprints and fancy... here is another from Cuba. Is there a premium/ or take off because it was not a square strike on the stamp??

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Posted 01/29/2011   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think your 2nd stamp, the 4 cuartos red, is actually a Spanish stamp (1855 SG55a perhaps).
Stanley Gibbons mentions that the surcharges on the Alfonso XII 1883 issues exist in 4 different patterns.
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Posted 01/29/2011   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you 22Crows. It is interesting you say that, because the album it is in calls it Cuba under Spain.
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Posted 01/29/2011   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
22crows, Thanks thats why I couldn't find it in Cuba. Scott list 5 different patterns for the 1883 issue.
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Posted 01/29/2011   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Then there is a differnce of opinion?
Byrum has them as Cuban telegraph stamps.


Oopsies!
I misread the thread. (It can happen you know )

Cuban telegraph.
Gratitude to donald byrum.



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Posted 01/29/2011   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last one is not listed in my Scott (1960) and I believe it is a telegraph (telegrafos) Scott lists the other 2 surcharged stamps are regular postage.
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