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France Postage Due With Overprint? Cancel? Help Please?

 
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Posted 06/12/2011   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is a postage due stamp from France but I don't know if this cancel mark is actually a cancellation or overprint. Can anyone help? Thanks as always - Jeff

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Posted 06/12/2011   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jeff, I believe it's a precancel from Paris.
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Posted 06/12/2011   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a precancel. The Paris precancels between used between 1893, 1920-22 Paris is clearly spelled out.
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Posted 06/12/2011   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigel great to hear from you but you must be suffering from a bit of insomnia. It is like 3:30 am where you are isnt it. Well it also appears we do not have a consensus of opinion on the cancellation yet and I have to work in the morning, so defer to the night owls and other time zoners and will check in the morning. Thanks to all for looking (nigel, warrehouse et al), much obliged. - jeff
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Posted 06/12/2011   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a thread on SCF that explains these.

edit: The below is wrong information. A guess, going by memory. Please ignore the remainder of this entry.
I believe it is a delivery postman's personal cancel. Each area (of Paris, or France?) has it's own special shape (triangle, circle, hexagon, etc) and each postman had his own letter or numeral, sometimes Roman Numerals).

This is a, most likely, bogus cancel, pic from ebay France, showing one allegedly from Paris 6th arondissement, No 3 postman (I think).


I will try to find that thread and post a link. I may be barking up the wrong tree also.

If that was a T in the triangle I would say it was for Taxe or Postage Due.
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Edited by Puzzler - 06/12/2011 11:14 pm
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Posted 06/12/2011   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was right mostly but a bit confusing also I think.

See this thread where I asked about the above stamp and hexagon. Very knowledgeable answer by a non-forum member, also a link.

https://goscf.com/t/14422
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Posted 06/12/2011   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Link to a proper explanation of your cancel triangle with B inside and nice examples.
http://marcophilie.org/x/x-marann-i.html

From website:
Ce timbre a été utilisée sur les timbres taxes. Souvent les timbres taxes ont été pré-oblitérés avec cette marque postale.

Google translates
This stamp was used on postage fees. Often the tax stamps have been pre-franked with this postmark.

So sometimes this was a precancel.
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Edited by Puzzler - 06/12/2011 11:16 pm
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Posted 06/13/2011   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Puzzler for the information. The values in the charts were a little confusing but I followed most of the text to find J40 with the Triangle B cancel. Turns out to be quite the interesting piece. Curious how these mundane little pieces of paper can tell a wonderful story. Thanks again all - jeff
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Edited by jhlovell - 06/13/2011 10:25 am
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Posted 03/14/2015   04:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ea21 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi,
i know it's an old topic,but I have a question regarding this subject.
i have the same "triangle+B" cencellation on a "timbres taxe de 1927" stamp, it's the same like in this link
http://marcophilie.org/x/x-marann-i.html but it also have like a circle coming from inside to the outside of the triangle,and the number "1" next to the B.
can't find it. what is it?
Thanks.


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Edited by ea21 - 03/14/2015 05:04 am
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