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If The Stamp On A Cover Is Upsidedown... [bracebridge, C.w.]

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Posted 03/03/2012   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BeeSee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
...how do you mount it in your album?

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Posted 03/03/2012   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 03/03/2012   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, that is not a bad idea, K!
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Beesee
Did you figured what is the name of the town on the cancel. It is driving me crazy trying to find out. Mount the cover the stamp upside down, that is how it was intend.
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Posted 03/03/2012   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a Bracebridge, Ontario cancel? Bujutsu will be interested in that.
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Posted 03/03/2012   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ncbuckeye to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion you would mount the cover to bring attention to whatever it is you want to be primary; if the stamp, then mount so stamp is easily seen right side up. In my case since I am mainly a cover lover, I would mount so the cover writing is right side up - easily readable without having to turn the page/mount sideways.
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Posted 03/03/2012   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You got it Cynical!
It's Bracebridge, Ontario

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Edited by timbres667 - 03/03/2012 3:42 pm
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Posted 03/03/2012   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cover! Moved the topic over to Canadian stamps and cover.
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Posted 03/03/2012   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did someone say Bracebridge?

Yes, interesting cover.

I live in Bracebridge and the way I would mount this cover would be as follows:

State the cancel, date etc etc.

This is a "Split-Ring' cancellation (Sept. 30, 1873) I can't make out of the bottom of the cancel reads "Ont." or "CW" for Canada West"??

According to records that I have, there were three (3) different hammers proofed of the "Split-Ring" types and yours, if the bottom reads "ONT.", then your's is early and unrecorded. The date of the first hammer is 'supposed' to be Aug. 1, 1879. Could you check this please to see if the bottom is "ONT" or "CW"?

Please forgive me, but I have to ask this: If it is "ONT" on the bottom of the canel, is it up for sale or trade?

Waiting to see info on this <G>

Chimo

Bujutsu



Date is unclear on this cancellation as well




Close-up of the cancellation. The bottom of this cancellation reads "CW" and is dated 1872
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Posted 03/03/2012   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great information Bujutsu.

As for the bottom I cannot tell. Here is a 600dpi - judge yourself



It is definitely 1873, the backstamp (Brighton) is 1873 and the stamp is perf 11.8 with a dot, a first Ottawa printing.
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Posted 03/03/2012   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fable beyond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BC,
As it is illegal to stick a stamp on upside down, we are to presume it has been printed upside down and stuck on the right way up.
In which case the only way is to display it the right way up; which is of course upside down
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Posted 03/03/2012   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fable, can you share some of that Federation Vodka?
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beesee


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Fable, can you share some of that Federation Vodka?




Yeah! Some Moskovskaya. That brings me way back when I was working in Russian restaurant here in Montreal, stuffing on piroshski.
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Edited by timbres667 - 03/03/2012 8:18 pm
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Posted 03/04/2012   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fable beyond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee,
I do not think it is available in Yorkshire.
I can send you some Yorkshire tea though if you like?
(Born in Vladivostok, live in England)
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Posted 03/04/2012   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree BeeSee

The cancel is smudged enough to make it difficult to determine. If I leaned to anything at all, I am inclined, but certainly not sure, that the initials are a smudged and widened "CW", which would be the correct time frame for this Split-Ring cancel (some refer to them as Broken-Ring - same thing).

Thanks for taking the time to scan a close-up of the cancel.

Chimo

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Edited by Bujutsu - 03/04/2012 1:41 pm
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Posted 03/04/2012   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot to answer your original question :(

If that cover was in my collection, I would be mounting it to show the "Bracebridge" cancel reading upright. The stamp being upsidedown was either an error on the sender's part or could have been a protest. During that particular time frame for up here, there were very strong pro empire feelings, so, I am inclined to think it was just in error (?).

If you are mounting it just to show the stamp with a description etc, then mount the cover upsidedown - my opinion of course.

Chimo

Bujutsu
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