Australia 1/- Lyrebird - 'Green Mist Retouch' ???

I was on my Toshiba laptop. I'm on my iphone now and it still looks like a whitish void.

Thanks Bobby, doubt you would have any chance on your phone of seeing it. With your laptop you may be best to copy the images and blow them up to see it properly. Also worth mentioning is that under a magnifying glass the SG catalolgue (tiny) image shows the faintest of lines in this "white void" area hence I say my image is a better scan or better example (or both) to that on the auction page.
Hopefully we get some more input from members.
Cheers, Castores

I came across Lyrebird one day while out on the horse, he was making a huge nest for the female he wanted to attract. I'd only ever heard them before never seen one it was such a sight.
Also if I remember rightly the call of the Lyrebird is really both the male and the female, with the female responding to the long call from the male with the sound that's like a whip crack.
I always think of them when I see this stamp :)

I got a glimpse of one once also Eiger and I agree to actually see one in the wild is pretty special.

I came across an image on another site that is supposed to be the 'real deal'. Taking into account the two differing scans etc, I put this image together. On the left is the 'real deal' with an arrow in place as per the position from Stanley Gibbons (which also gives the following information "A large area to the left of the birds feathers is recut").

Even though I had read this before I got lost in the lower area to the left of the bird (below the feathers) that you could call a 'white void'. It appears (now that I've let the above REALLY sink in) that this area has nothing to do with the "green mist" retouch. So please ignore earlier posts in relation to this area. Where we should ONLY be looking is left of the "birds feathers".

Working on SG's words it is a "large area". So how large? Does the area start from the arrow point and continue all the way to the top of the feathers? Is it that there generally appears to be a 'left' and 'right' in thickness of lines? Is the retouch actually a thinning of lines (Is that possible without replacing?)

Having said that the 'left' lines on mine (right stamp) appear to have the same thickness but mine doesn't appear to have the same distinction between 'left and 'right'. Was the retouch to reduce the lines on the 'right' (rather than thicken) to make a distinction.

Mine doesn't appear to be the same as the stamp on the left (in that respect) and so I tend to defer to (alas) mine is not the 'real deal' but I'm still not 100% satisfied, still a niggle.

Is this 'left' and 'right' even part of the distinction or just a partial light inking? Still so many questions. I'm not satisfied... yet. Left stamp is 'real deal' and used, right stamp is mint - could anything have occurred to 'lighten' this area as a result of posting?

Note, if you look closely at the petal top left you will see mine has more detail (thicker and complete) lines where the 'real deal' doesn't - just to add to the confusion.

There is no talk on a distinction between 'left' and 'right'. Is this, like the 'white void', a complete furphy. Is mine (mint) just a 'fuller' inking than the 'real deal'? That's where my thinking is...

Can anyone provide an image of the normal stamp for comparison as I only have this one mint stamp to work with.

Sorry if this is convoluted.

I think that we are missing the important features noted in the Green Mist Retouch. If I am reading it correctly, it states that ALL of the Horizontal lines were retouched. To me, this means that each one of them was manipulated, and I can clearly see that in the picture O64g. Where I see the biggest difference, though, is in the lower horizontal lines, where they become less parallel to each other, and stronger inking, with some being jagged / not straight.



I don't think the upper horizontal lines are key to identifying this item. I also don't think we have a match, yet.

Hi Partime, I feel I have reached full-circle. The area you speak of is the area I have always looked at until I recently bought the latest Stanley Gibbons which also has an image/description. I have the image you show but with a different catalogue number (Old ACSC catalogue 73g).



Latest SG catalogue does not discuss this area at all (230da)



You wouldn't happen to have an example of the normal stamp you could post? Anyone?

What a cafuffle this stamp appears to generate.

I have no idea what I have apart from.......

Sc#300 1956 Unwatermarked.
Design 17½mm x 21½ mm
1 shilling, dull green, Male Lyrebird.

13 teeth x 15 teeth = P 14.85 x 13.96 =P14½ x 14



and another, same ID.

Note: Could this be O64 (f) "Roller flaw over "O" of "One"

Roller flaw over "O" of "ONE"



Looks every bit like it to me!

Green mist



Isn't it just and still I'm lost.
So I've joined your 'normal' stamp to 'the real deal' and mine -



Still lost....

By the way Rod, on your image I think I notice the inner frame broken between 8-9 lines down from lowest tip of petal.

Right you are, Castor..thanks, not sure if that would be listable.

Regarding the "Green Mist" my guess would be that, once a true example is shown, the flaw will be obvious, the engraver's repair must be more than just subtle, esp for such a address in the ACSC.

We await to be enlightened...

One day we might have a Brusden White to refer to. Hopefully those that do the hard work and determine 'listed' varieties/flaws come to determine those we find in our examples.

"Green Mist"...... time to stop racking my brain over it........... for the meantime.

Thanks to all who've tried to help.

Hi new member here. inherited a collection and have no idea what I'm looking at but trying to identify what I have. Any help would be appreciated. Will try to attach a couple of pics hopefully they are clear enough. Got a fair few to go through but found this thread and thought I'd see what the experts think.

Couple more. Couldn't get them on the same post. Not sure why.

Found some more and 2 different sizes this time

James,
what you have is an everyday random collection of Australian stamps, just worth a couple of dollars.
If you persevere in the hobby, and looking for value, you will need the ability to "scan" your Kangaroos, (Kangaroo and Map stamps) to a quality previous in this thread, for us to look at the very fine flaws that you may have, this is called "flyspecking"

Otherwise, source a stamp catalogue, and begin learning about the hobby by reading here online.
If you get the collecting bug, there's years of fun ahead.
Good Luck.

Rod
You have not lost your "touch" - Cheers from Canada !!
René