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Rare Greece Inverted?? 1 Other Odd Greece Cant Find In Book

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Posted 08/29/2012   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add UFOAirMail to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was exploring through Greece today and found quite alot of nice stuff in which I will post pics fof later this evening,but heres what caught my eye..this first one I dont think is supposed to have this on it is it? If so what is it,,whats it called,is it a rarity?? A mistake??

Also this Greece w/ writing on it...any ideas on what both of these are?

Thanks for your knowledge and help!

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Posted 08/29/2012   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tefloncinco to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice Greece stamps ,I'm also working on cancellations ,don't worry someone will be here soon to assist you, I think that you have quit a collection you will do well.
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Posted 08/29/2012   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the top stamp, the overprint is not inverted.

For the bottom stamp, it appears to be some sort of fiscal stamp (also known as revenue stamp).
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Posted 08/29/2012   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's an overprint- I assume it's a semi postal to aid the red cross (meaning that it pays 20- postage and 50- towards the red cross for that one.) now, I could and often are wrong, but I think that's what it is.

I assume the bottom one is some sort of revenue- But I don't know more than that.
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Posted 08/29/2012   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting again and thank you all! That top stamp now,if that an over print wouldnt the same stamps all have this mark,,I have anothe rexact stamp that does not have the over print on it so I was wondering this on over prints and are there mistakes on over prints such as putting it on wrong stamp,as this is what I think has happened here because there is nothing in the scott saying overprint for Greece 1927 Underwatermarked #323 or any of them for this series of greece??
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Posted 08/29/2012   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first stamp, depicting Macedonian armour, was originally isued without the surcharge in 1927. In Sept 1938 it was reissued with a surcharge of half a drachma to fund Social Security.
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Posted 08/29/2012   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the olden days, if you wanted to reuse some stamps for a different purpose, you overprinted it. In this case, a regular issue stamp gets overprinted for use as a semipostal, or charity stamp. Part of the stamp's value is for postage and part is for a donation to the charity. The semipostal stamps are listed in Scott Catalogs with the prefix of the letter B.
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Posted 08/29/2012   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Man o man I cant find greece over prints..I have 2002 vol 3 scotts and I just cant find the RA section
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Posted 08/29/2012   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 08/29/2012   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just start at the beginning of Greece and leaf through, page by page; #1 to around #2000, regular postage. #B1-15, semi-postals. #C1-80, airmails. #CB1-10, air mail semi-postals. #J1-93, postage dues. Then comes #RA1-91, postal tax stamps. Your stamp is #RA-60, 20 cents used.
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Posted 08/29/2012   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As for the second, the inscription reads `Basileion tes (H)ellados`, I guess that means Kingdom of Greece (at least I`m almost sure that `basileia` means kingdom. In Greece kingdom was abolished in 1973, so this must have been issued earlier.
Above the coat of arm it reads `kineton episema` (something related to `move`?, see greek word `kinesis`-kinematograf-cinema ???), maybe `mobile`....
`Pronoia` appears in the `koine` greek (the spoken greek of the I. century, the New Testament was written in koine). As far as I know `pronoia` in the New Testament bears the meaning of `providence`.
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Posted 08/29/2012   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After a bit of judicious conversation with my well informed friend Doctor Google ,it would appear to be Scott RA60
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Posted 08/29/2012   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I just found it also on Google but not not the revenue stamp..hahah I still havnt found the darn thing in the book though,,it drives ya nuts when you know its there nd cant locate it..cant find dar airmails for greece neither..gotta take break for a bit I guess hahaha wow this can be tough on the eyes!
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Posted 08/29/2012   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Doug dam! hahah that was easy,,what the heck was I doing earlier,,I was hanging back there in the begginning,,I am starting to figure these books out now better!
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Posted 08/29/2012   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The revenue stamp is NOT in Scott, so you can stop looking. Maybe you were thinking that the "RA" section is for revenues. It's not, it's for postal tax stamps. Virtually none of the countries in Scott have revenue stamps listed unless they were overprinted for regular postal use, but at that point, they are no longer revenues.
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Posted 08/29/2012   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Power went out in my neck of the woods. I see the others have already IDed the top stamp.

UFO, out of fairness to the others who type thread titles in the normal fashion, could you not type your thread titles in all capitals. Thank you.
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