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1931 Cancelled First Flight Newfoundland To St. Pierre

 
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Posted 12/05/2014   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Jenny2U to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does anyone know why this FF was cancelled? The note on the back of the cover only says it was "due to international complications", which is a bit vague even for the 1930's



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Posted 12/05/2014   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be that there were 2 mailing addresses on the letter....could that be why the note of a complication...??
Just a thought.
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Posted 12/05/2014   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The semi-official stamps were never authorized by the Canadian government nor did any of the three governments involved ever authorize the company to carry mail. In August 1931 , a flight was made to St Pierre where the covers were seized upon landing and held for three years and eventually returned to the company.
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Posted 12/05/2014   11:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you jarnick! So the stamp was invalid. My thought now is that since a "regular" stamp was not used on the front of the cover like every other FF, the company was purposely producing philatelic curiosities. But at least now I have one less item to wonder about
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Posted 12/05/2014   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Checkout this auction listing for a similar cover. Note in the accompanying text that:


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The flight never took place as the post offices in the three countries did not recognize the label.


As a result, they title the cover "Projected First Flight"!

http://db.kelleherauctions.com/php/...=8057&lang=1

A more detailed story is recited here:


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In Newfoundland up to the 1930s mail could be a little slow in arriving. Some outports might only get mail a couple times a year when the supply ships (Known as "Coastal boats") came. Coastal boats bringing supplies to the outports operated well into the 1970s even after roads went through to most communities.
But in the 1920s airmail revolutionized Newfoundland communications. Mail that might have a two year turnaround time might only be a couple weeks turnaround - even to England. By the late 1920s stamp collectors were actively collecting Flight Covers for mail that was delivered all throughout North America. Pilots loved being able to charge a little extra to carry mail and therefore more likely to make running a little airline profitable. Pilot Charles Roy and a couple friends bought a derelict Fokker Universal Monoplane from the Canadian air force and completely rebuilt the aircraft and added pontoons so he could land on water. Flying covers for collectors was a big part of the business plans for their new airline and a Flight from Nova Scotia to St Pierre was planned for Dec 15th 1930. Stamps were printed that showed their airplane flying over John Cabots ship the Matthew. But the flight got delayed as they had trouble getting cachets and approval from the St Pierre government and on dec 16th a storm that was described as a hurricane broke the plane from its moorings in Sydney harbour and Charles Roy and his partners watched as the plane drifted across the harbour and required extensive repairs.

Finally on Aug 1st, 1931, after selling and preparing 4100 covers and with an approval letter from the St Pierre Governer, Charles Roy, His partner J Robert McCowan and two sacks of mail containing the 4100 covers left Sydney harbour. Extreme wind, rain and a storm delayed the progress and they got fogged in at Burgeo for five days. It's a miracle that they even made it at all but a few days later they arrived in St Pierre where 4000 people (Pretty much the entire population) greeted them like celebrities as they touched down in St Pierre harbour. A plane coming was big news in those days.

The sacks of mail was offloaded with plans to bring them to the post office, add St Pierre and Miquelon stamps and put them into the mail system where the post office would return them to the addresses printed on them. Unfortunately , an unexpected problem now occurred. I assume that the customs people in St Pierre were not stamp collectors and bringing 4100 covers and mailing them seemed dodgy to them The letter from the governor didn't help matters and the 4100 covers was confiscated by customs and Charles Roy eventually left leaving his covers behind.

After 27 months of haggling with customs the covers were returned by surface mail when Roy and McCowan added a rubber stamped notation to them and signed them before returning them to the customers who expected their covers back more than two years earlier. Most (If not all) covers were signed by McCowan.

Only 4100 covers exist and while there were various mint stamps made up few (If any- other than the 4100 on the covers to St Pierre on the aug 1931 flight) were ever used.


As taken from the text provided at this link:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEWFOUND...047675.l2557
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Edited by wt1 - 12/05/2014 12:24 pm
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Posted 12/05/2014   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1 - as usual you are brilliant at finding out additional information Thank you so much.
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Posted 12/05/2014   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny2U,

Thanks for the posting--I'm an avid (some would say crazy) Newfoundland only collector. A few more details to amplify the information above:

I have this cover and in my opinion it is a nice to have. Value is maybe $25 to $75, perhaps $150 if a rarer version (see below).

As noted above : this is an unofficial First Flight Cover (FFC) by a private airmail company and some were posted on later (i've got one that was posted on to Washington DC, wierdly). The mail was seized and delivered later with the philatelic marketing note signed by the President. WT1's post gives more detail on this.

Historically this cover was sort of officially noted in two books of import (The Airmails of Canada and Newfoundland (552 page detailed book you could buy for $35 or find at a library) and also Walsh/Butts (Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalog (aka NSSC), a 489 page book covering all Newfoundland stamps. Both the AAMC book and Walsh reference and list this cover as FF48 (AAMC) or FF28 (NSSC). I provide these details for two reasons : so you can note the specifics on your record or the cover in pencil but also, so you and the community can see that at one stage these covers were sort of officially recognized. There is controversy though and some purists don't like this; in fact Walsh's NSSC has since deleted it from their listing and has a footnote on it, but considers them "souvenir items". I don't disagree but also think that they have some value and historic interest. After all the covers did fly on an "airship" in 1931.

Lastly, there are actually 4 different shades of that funny little label on the cover. (I can't bring myself to call it a stamp, because it definitely not in Scott or Unitrade). Yours is a plain yellow one with red ink cachet. There are also 3 other variants and are sort of rarer or harder to find. (A yellow one with vertical stripes, an off white one with the ink cachet in black not red, and a green one with green cachet.

If anyone wants to see these images, let me know.

Here they are :







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Posted 12/05/2014   1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And tommy thanks also to you! This board is such a fabulous resource and I'm very grateful for everything I've learned so far. I think I paid around $5 for this cover several years ago, never thinking it would turn out to be such an interesting item.

Please post the varieties of these "labels" - I would be very interested in seeing them.
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Posted 12/06/2014   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that is a lot of information. My goodness, there is so much to learn.
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