Question About Newer 4 Pt Scott Classic International Albums

Hi,
As mentioned in other posts, I picked up a lightly used 4 part Scott International (Classic - thru 1940) and am migrating stamps from my 1947 "Part 1" to the newer set. I am at the "L" countries, approaching 6k stamps "licked & sticked".........

In doing the Leeward Islands, the 1947 Part 1 has two pages going thru the 1920s. The new album has one page only going thru 1911.

Am I missing a page? And for that matter, how can one tell if they have all the pages? And that brings up the question, if I am missing a page, how can I get a replacement?

It sure would have been nice if Scott kept all the stamps/countries identified in the 1942-1947 version and rolled them intact to the current 4 part issues...........

Thanks all!

Unfortunately, my copy of the 4 part is still boxed up somewhere so I can't answer your Leeward Island question. I suppose since Amos publishes the number of pages that are in each part, you could compare the number of pages in your copy with that number to know if your album is complete, although I would wonder if Amos is counting the title pages, etc. So only if the number was off by a number of pages would I be confident that something is wrong.

Amos has kindly replaced a couple of pages for me. Twice for free in the past, once more recently for the cost of postage. If no one else can check on your Leeward Islands question, they might even do that for you.

MOBILMAN -----There is only one page for LEEWARD ISLAND up to your 1911 . If you need to check any page let me know ,my set is brand new ,and it is next to one of my computers .

THANK YOU both! I appreciate the information and offer of further help.

I'm about half way thru the transition, and my only disappointment occurs when I have "left over" stamps that had a home in the 1947 album, but not in the new one. Of course when I'm done I'll go back and insert blank pages for those "orphans".

Ha, after the classic period is finished, I need to do likewise for the 1940s set ...............

Thank you,
Mobilman44

I have, among my BBs, an earlier two part edition. The "Part 1B", copyright 1992, does have 44 spaces and 1 page and two lines coverage for the Leeward islands. This is the same coverage as the '69 and the 40s editions.

But from my Leeward islands blog post...

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...islands.html

"Big Blue '69 entry for the Leeward Islands is found after Lebanon, on the same page as Madeira. It consists of 1 page and 2 lines, and there are 44 spaces between the years 1890-1938. Coverage is 38%.

Update: Joe Lill (see comments) notes that only 13 spaces exist for the '97 edition. It appears one whole page (31 spaces) was not put into the "97 edition- possibly inadvertent. The only other difference in content that I am aware of between the '69 and '97 editions is the absence of Anjouan in the '97."

Similar question.......... Does anyone know if/when Amos will again produce punched hole page dividers for the Internationals? Or is anyone still selling them? You can get dividers for the specialty albums and the National, but not the Internationals. Last week, I ordered two regular sized International binders off their web site. No mention there of dividers. Thanks.

Climber Steve, I apologize with replying to your question with a question, but I wasn't aware that Scott ever published page dividers for the Internationals. That would be very interesting to know.

Failing all else, I wonder if it would be possible to adapt the dividers intended for the National/Specialty albums and use the country tab labels that Scott produced for the Classic Catalogue?

Hi,
Well, I just finished the "M" countries in my migration from the 1947 Scott Part 1 to the newly issued set..... I'm almost at 6000 stamps moved, which is measured by the number of Dennison 1000 count packages of hinges I've used.

The decision to make this move was based upon getting pages with higher quality/thicker paper, and having the countries and types begin on a new page. However, I've run into some downsides which - you guys told me about ahead of time - are bothering me more than I thought they would.

There are three areas of my discontent:
- There are a number of countries of which I have stamps, which are not included in the new edition of the album. Yes, I have the blank pages and can write in the country name, etc., but it isn't the same as a pre-printed page.
- There are a number of areas of types of stamps that are missing from various countries. War tax and newspaper stamps (and other BOB) found in early Scotts are not always represented in the new edition. They are for some countries, but not for all that issued said stamps.
- The printing on the new pages is overly dark with stamp details often blurred or hidden. Fortunately the pages in general replicate the earlier edition, so I can figure out what belongs where. Without the earlier edition, this would be a more significant problem.

OK, considering this is a lifelong hobby and my interests will continue, I will go ahead and finish out the transfer and add blank pages as necessary, etc., etc. Having the new paper and each area starting on a new page is a major attraction, and pretty much worth all the effort.

What I find with BB is the sum is greater than the parts.

When I look at a particular country, I can always find fault with BB's selection or lack of selection.

But when I examine BB as a whole, I am awed by the challenge of filling all those spaces for so many different countries. And leafing through a recent BB with the thicker paper and more leisurely presentation, one can enjoy the accomplishment.

True, I keep my collection in a "virtual" Big Blue housed in Steiner pages.

The upside is every stamp- even those that never were granted a space in BB- has a place.

The downside is I have to imagine what a full page in BB looks like- not quite the satisfaction of the real thing- which you are doing.

So congratulations and enjoy.

mobilman44, that's interesting that the poorer reproduction of stamps in the latest Part I International edition is causing you occasional identification problems. Not having actually used the four parter, I would have thought this was just an aesthetic issue. Obviously not!

As you say, the advantage of the four part version is that you can easily integrate your own album pages but they won't have the look and feel of the printed pages. I wonder if anyone has tried to replicate the look of the "Blue" pages when creating their own?

"I wonder if anyone has tried to replicate the look of the "Blue" pages when creating their own?"

I know that some people will use blank Scott International pages and print Steiner onto them, although I have not tried it myself.

mobilman

Rotten print in new editions is characteristic of these operations. I use reprints of Gibbons's Ideal and Imperial. The reproductions are inferior to the original albums, although the paper quality is higher. So I sympathise!

Geoff

I have also heard talk of the same inferior image reproductions with the newer Minkus Supreme Global albums, but don't know if it is bad enough to affects stamp ID. One would think in this 'digital age' you wouldn't have these problems.

Actually, the reprinted Ideal manages to omit some images altogether - as the album is complete, unlike the Big Blue, you can work out what goes there, but still annoying.

I've read that, too. What I was thinking was more like someone with way too much time on their hands creating pages that if you didn't know better, you would assume were originally part of the album. That is, in addition to the International border, fonts match, rows per page and spaces per row, match, and titles are where you expect them.

Now I am just fine with blank pages; in fact, I'm rather partial to quadruled, so this isn't something I would bother with, but I would be impressed if someone took the trouble.

I prefer the Specialty border to the International border, though I prefer the International binders and page size. I take the Steiner Pagemaker files, remove the border and replace it with a Specialty border scanned and resized to match the smaller pages. Of course I pretty much always move the stamps around and add more varieties than Scott lists. Here are some sample pages.