Picture Of The Two Different Franklin, Nc, 841 Types?

I am scratching my head over the supposed difference between the two 841 types listed in PSS 2007 for Franklin, NC.

They both have the potential to be found with the error KRA
They are both 841 (obviously)
They both have a difference in the line distance
The catalog lists no specific difference in measurements between them

But one is $5 and one is basic.

I have 4 stamps -- the coastal one has wider lines than the others. But that doesn't mean it's a "special". Can anyone describe or post a pic of the two different types so that I understand what I am supposed to be looking for? Thanks.

Hi JanS. I am not a collector of precancels per se, although I do collect the bureau precancels on the Transportation Series. In other words I know very little! But I see a difference in the first three and the Nat't Parks issue, the top bar is further away from "Franklin" as on the other two. Maybe that's it?

Peter

the error has the spelling KRANKLIN, I have one, just not handy to be scanned.

I don't have my PSS catalog handy, but the rightmost stamp, Nat'l Parks Centennial, has a greater distance between the top line and "Franklin". I wonder if that's the difference to which you are referring.

Here is the V-841 VAR 2/ KRAKLIN/FRANKLIN variety, side-by-side, CHASA is discussing:


Hal

By the way, I forgot to mention the image I posted is the $5.00 variety. - sorry.

I am still confused -- sorry everyone.

Yes, I think the coastal one is OK. Now I re-read, the catalog seems to say that ONLY 841 variety 1 is found with both a bigger and a smaller gap at the top. So, the coastal one is the first variety, with large gap.

BUT, the catalog says that BOTH forms of 841 are found with KRA on them. So just having KRA is not enough to determine which type it is.

So I am left with 4 possibilities of stamps that I don't know how to differentiate:

a) the first variety spelled KRA and with a small distance

versus

b) the second variety spelled KRA and with a small distance

and

c) the first variety spelled correctly and with a small distance

versus

d) the second variety spelled correctly and with a small distance

In other words, a) Hal, how do you know yours is a mis-spelled 841 variety 2 ($5) and not a mis-spelled 841 (variety 1) (20 cents)

and b) how does one know when one has an 841 variety 1 spelled correctly (20 cents) as opposed to an 841 variety 2 spelled correctly ($5)



PS Is it possible that the catalog has a typo and that KRA is always type 2 ??????

There are 2 devices, one has the KRANKLIN error, the one with the error is only worth 5$ for those stamps that have the error. There are no 20 cent mis-spelled varieties. If you have a non-error stamp with normal line spacing it is impossible to tell which device made it. The catalog is inferring also, if you have a non-normal line spacing, it comes from the non-error device. Clear as mud, but there is no catalog typo.

Just got back and missed all the fun-- THANKS CHASA! for picking-up the ball and an answering JANS questions. I agree with CHASA, the PSS Catalogs leave a lot to be desired and assumes the reader is an advanced precancel collector. I can't tell you how many times I have to go to two guys that are Life Members of the PSS to explain things in the PSS catalogs that make absolutely no sense. I'm fortunate, between these two guys they have nearly every US precancel ever issued and they can show me first hand what is going on.

Hal

Well, this is all new to me -- Franklin is just across the hill from me. I am definitely going to start calling it KRANKLIN just to annoy all the people who live there. Thanks!