200 Mark Overprinted 20 Thousand Cancelled

hello! I have a 200 mark stamp overprinted 20 thusend whitsh is cancelled I suspect that its rare or higher value! Is there anyone ho has insight with German hyperinflation stamps with are cancelled! I don't know for shore if its rare or high value!maybe you can tell me something about it probably the cancellation must be reel!but you newer knowe!any ideas are welcome!thanks

Yes it is a real stamp ,with a good cancel but it is the perfins that make it worth more than a regular stamp.

hello!okey floortrader!so the perfin makes it more valuble isit the combination that it is a hyperinflatin stamp whith a canselletion and then that it is perfin!i wonder becouse I have read that some of the stamps hyperinflation is high value becouse of the cansellation so isit even better then whith the perfin also!or isit just the perfin that matters and the cansellatin dosent matter!but it most matter the casellation to!isit right to say that that the 20 thusent overprint is pre paid and it sholdent have a casellation or is that wrong, just trying to understand why the hyperinflation stamps of this kind shouldent have a casellation!enyway iam happy about the perfin I hope that it is that I suspect if it isent well there is a nother explenation!thanks for the help

Here is a recent one that sold on ebay (without perfin)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-German...047675.l2557
Don

The stamp on ebay has no Date in the cancel. then its a low value.
The stamps come from an INFLATION period. every few weeks the value of the Deutsch Mark was lower.
If the rate for a letter was on januari the first, RM 1,00 it could be that at july 1 the rate was RM 100,00!
A few weeks later RM500,00 etc.
Used german stamps shoud be cancelled in the right period, in the example above RM 20,000.
In the Michel spezialized cat are all the right tarifs mentioned.
Many collectors have unused stamps from this period, its the inflation, if you buy "today" 1 stamp of RM 20,000 you have to use for a letter , after a month RM 500,000 ! So the cheap stamps were left over.
Maybe someone has a spezialized Michel Germany cat.?
All info is in there. I cant find my cat. I moved to a new house last januari..

hello! on my stamp it says 8-23-10 and then 11 and in the cirkel lower part its a 8

That would be all the info on the cancellation. Like date, maybe the station ( clerk ) that did the cancelling and even the time of day sometimes.

Peter

That means 8 = august and 23 is the year, between 10-11 hrs.
So the question is what was the postrate at august 1923.

Not that simple kiloware. The '8' is the number on the bottom, so that is possibly the station number. I can really not tell from the small picture what the first number is ( I believe it is outside the stamp ) but I read 3 and then 23. Which tells me the date would be more like March of 1923.

Peter

hello it looks like 1 almost outside of the stamp and then 3 -23-10 and 11 and in the upper right corner it looks like a 3

Hi Peter it looks as a 3 to me too, but Magic 70 wrote its 8-23-10... and an 8 on the bottom.
The 8 on the bottom can be the number of the postoffice employee , or something else.
For the date and time we have to look at the middle of the postmark, it can be important to know what day it was, it went very fast in the 20's every week the Rmark was going down in value.
We need a collector with a Michel spezialized catalogue to find out what the situation was in march and or august 1923.

The 8 in the bottom of the postmark means 'counter' in english, I guess.

it is 8-23.
the 3 in 23 is flat at the top, the 8 has a circular form at the top.

Magic, one thing would help. Could you put up a larger scan of the stamp, and sideways so we can read the postmark without hurting our neck?

Peter

I found a few stamps from Germany in my stock, all unused mint from leftover sheets.
on th photo a block of 8 of the 5 Million RM stamps.
Used in the right period these stamps have value nowadays.




top-right a stamp with RM 100 billion! Unused, no marketvalue..

I found a file on the web with German postal rates during the 20's, and the 20.000 would be correct for a heavy letter in August of 1923. In March they were still way lower, so I am sure the August is correct.

Peter