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Struggling With This 482... Any Possibility It Could Be A (You Know What?) ?

 
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I don't see a type Ia, but I am not an expert. But anyway it would need a better image quality - so smaller size but better JPG quality when you resize the image. Here are quite a lot of JPG artefacts which make the image unclear. The stamp seems to have much ink which is why the relevant lines seem to be thicker. But again, wait for other opinions :).
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I can do that... I scanned at 600dpi which is my max with this scanner
but the image wasn't very clear, so I increased the contrast and then
enlarged it 150%
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check the watermark - it looks like a SC 409 to me
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check the watermark - it looks like a SC 409 to me


Hi, Chasa... I perform watermark testing on all 409 and 482, and have
a very extensive study group of both... it's not a 409... the 482 was
also available in deep carmine, as well as carmine rose.

Randall
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I don't see a type Ia, but I am not an expert. But anyway it would need a better image quality - so smaller size but better JPG quality when you resize the image. Here are quite a lot of JPG artefacts which make the image unclear. The stamp seems to have much ink which is why the relevant lines seem to be thicker. But again, wait for other opinions :).


Here's a straight scen with no contrast enhancement


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Posted 09/02/2017   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, does not appear to be a type 1a!

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Hi, does not appear to be a type 1a!


I agree by "classic" ID norms...

However there are known variables on the 500, which are similar
to this one...
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Hi, so give me an education, what are the known variables as related to 500 which are similar to this one?

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Hi, so give me an education, what are the known variables as related to 500 which are similar to this one?


Do a search on the 500 and you'll find all of the discussions...
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Hi, actually the Martin Armstrong book gives superior pick up points for 500 and other Washington/Franklin Head Stamps, well work the cost to purchase one.

Also in the Armstrong book, give you the background reason why 500 was an experiment.

I've found a few 500.

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Posted 09/02/2017   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the Armstrong book... it's been part of my library for 20 years
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The stamp is type I. Aside from not having a heavy enough button outline, the unprinted areas where the "missing lines" would be in the left and right ribbons are completely clear. No partial lines or other ink appears. Finally, the bottom edge of the toga ribbon is heavily inked compared to the top line of the ribbon. The top and bottom of the ribbon do not have the marked contrast of the type I. The top edge of a type Ia ribbon is more heavily inked while the "digs" at the bottom edge of the ribbon are less pronounced compared with the rest of the design.
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Posted 09/02/2017   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Clark... additional input much appreciated...

With Armstrong vague on these details, would you say his so-called
"Full Type 1" should have included the detail you mentioned?

Randall

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