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Posted 09/29/2017   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is Scott U.S.A. right and proper number 462.

On parent scan I've added arrows pointing to the Pick Up Points (PUP).

#1 PUP upper left corner on the "U" of U.S., maybe too much ink and left a blog of color on the "U". Second, there are lines on the "U", do not know if this is an ink pull or something else.

#2 PUP bottom right figure, maybe over inking again, with a blog of ink.

#3 PUP extended relief from ladder into the white margin, not the result of over inking.

There are other areas that appear to be the result of over inking, but not important enough to add a PUP!

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Posted 09/29/2017   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think a much more interesting point is the broken "L" in ILL. The PUP's (?) look very much like a dirty or unwiped plate to me.
By the way, what is a PUP?

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Posted 09/29/2017   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PUP = Pick Up Point
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Posted 09/29/2017   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is a Pick Up Point?

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Posted 09/29/2017   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PUP = Prehistoric Unknown Phase

Stampmaster has been attempting to revive this rather obscure acronym. But given all the internet lingo and acronyms why not?

Eschew obfuscation.
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Posted 09/29/2017   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We have to be able to speak to all members and leave some of these obscure (Don) acronyms ......somewhere...far from SCF !
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Posted 09/29/2017   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all

Pick Up Point (PUP) is used as pointing to an interesting location on a stamp. Pointing could be with the use of an arrow, or just a line, or in words or a combination of all as the case might require.

@Petert4522 may I ask why you think the Precancel is very much like a dirty or unwiped plate to you? I don't understand and need your help!

PUP is not an internet lingo, but used by stamp collectors, of plate varieties, before the internet came along!

In my original posting, I spelled out what PUP was as such Pick Up Point so all would know what the abbreviation PUP meant, perhaps my using abbreviations in and right and proper way is confusing to today's stamp collectors. Perhaps this is not taught anymore in school! Just saying!

Back to the original question, I thinking now the PUP on the "U" is a double transfer, westward orientation. Any thoughts?

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Posted 09/29/2017   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I search the hundreds of thousands of posts in this forum I only really find one person who uses the term 'Pick Up Point'. I think this confirms that at least in this forum it is a rarely used term, you can keep trying to promote its use if you want but it will continue to confuse others.
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Posted 09/29/2017   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been plating stamps since 1985, and this is the first I've heard of pick up point. Its probably a colloquial - I've noticed different people in different areas do approach plating differently, and lingo varies.

Anyway, it makes me think of "puppies", so that's fine.
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Posted 09/29/2017   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, if I cannot use Pick Up Point (PUP) what should I use for today's stamp collectors?

I want and thought I was using the abbreviation the correct way.

I want to communicate with today's stamp collectors, but if I do not know the current lingo how do I do it?

Asking for help.

Sorry I used what was used by many stamp collectors back in the day.

Just saying.

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Posted 09/29/2017   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
txstamps - Allow me to pick up on that puppies point....I got the same kind of association as you did.
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Hi

Eschew obfuscation

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Posted 09/29/2017   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was an attempt at a play on words...'avoid confusion' by intentionally using confusing words.
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I've never seen anyone else use the acronym PUP or even the term "pick-up point". The term makes sense though; I've just never seen it used.

I don't know that there is modern standard equivalent for it. If I were writing about a stamp, I probably would use the term "diagnostic point", but that's not standard, just the term that resonates with me personally.
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Hi revenuecollector, thanks

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