Is A D Grill 15 X 19 Points?

This stamp has 15 points across, and 18-19 points up and down?

See here for grills. Assuming it's a 3¢ Washington? could we see the front?

http://www.jamesdire.net/grill.html

If legitimate then 15 X 18 = D grill

Usually a D grill is said to have 15 x 17-18 points. That extra half row of points at the bottom may be some sort of edge condition as sometimes seen on grills. I'm not an expert on D grills, but that certainly looks like it. So that would make that a #85.

I didn't know if the "edge grills' were of notice when counting Grill points... then the D can have 19 if that's the case, or it could be a *New* grill :D

I know that on some grills you get these half points on the end. For example there are good Z grills that have the pattern half-point 13-points half-point. It has something to do with the edge of the grill machine.

http://stampsmarter.com/learning/ID...8Grills.html
Don

"I know that on some grills you get these half points on the end. For example there are good Z grills that have the pattern half-point 13-points half-point. It has something to do with the edge of the grill machine."

Of course, "13 1/2" falls right into the 13-14 norm for the Z Grill. If one does count the edge grills as complete grills, then the D can go to 19 points. If it cannot, then... that it's exactly 15 points across is the spec for the D, but what about up and down? The norm is 17-18 points, this has 18-19 points? So I guess the question is: Do the incomplete edge grills count as a full point, or count for nothing? Don?

half - 13 - half looks like 15 so causes confusion. But I have it on good authority that it occurs on Z grills.

I suspect finding an equivalent "good authority" on D grills is not so easy. Personally I vote it's a D grill because if it isn't it would have to be a fake grill and it doesn't look fake.

I peeled if off of a Midwest cover... it's a crisp embossing of the grill; but if half-grill marks count as a point each, then this has 19 points up and down

Too bad on the crease. But it is beautiful centering for a D grill, and the shade is also correct, as all of the rarer grills, also known as "experimental" are the dull rose shade. Congrats on the 85.

They are definitely out there to find. I've found 3 in ebay, one unused, just looking at the back of dull 88's, usually with ragged perfs and bad centering....

Ray