Adelade 2016 Emergency Issue 30 Cent Stamps

Hi Everyone, No doubt members would be aware of the Australia Emergency issue 30 cent Adelaide done in January 2016. This was unofficial and not apparently authorized by Australia Post. It was done to make uo a 70cent stamp to 1 dollar which was a price hike for postage of a standard letter in Jan 2016. Only 7.00 of these stamps were issued by Adelide POST OFFICE USING COUNTER Printed Stamps, the only State to do so. This meant the stamps became a modern day rareity and of those stamps,many were no doubt lost/thrown out by businesses or the public hence numbers are limited. Linns stamp news did an article on it. I have two sets. Enjoy, any comments welcome.

Anyone in the USA heard of this or world wide?

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revdoc

Where did you get the unofficial and not authorised comment from. I doubt if either of these comments are true and you are in fact accusing a senior Australia Post official of committing a very serious offence. A bit more care with your sources might be advisable.

Regards
Frank

Are these considered a limited local provisional emergency issue? Also, since they did go through the Australian postal system mail, weren't they somehow approved by Australia Post since one cannot legally use unofficial unauthorized stamps?

Hi Everyone and a Happy New Year.

I know I'll get some flak from this reply but here goes.

I was offered a complete set of these stamps but turned them down (although I can easily afford them). They are not recognised as stamps by Stanley Gibbons but as labels, which is where revdocs extract comes from, so therefore it will not be classified as stamps from SG.

I have spoken to stamp dealers and specialist dealers, and they will not buy them at all. The "rarity" is from the hype that came from an ebay frenzy and fuelled by a certain person I care not mention on this forum.

One ebay fool bought a set for $10,000 thinking he will make a killing later on, yet Seven Seas (the only catalogue that gives a price) says a full set would be worth $4,500, a $5,500 loss for that fellow.

Even seven Seas says to not take their pricing seriously.

There is no official catalogue value and it was not authorised by Australia Post, it was a decision made from one Post Office in Victoria.

If it were officially declared rare I would have bought the set, but it is only a "label" and I do not collect labels.

Rob

PS: jogil. They are emergency "stamps", they are legal, and they were unauthorised.

My decimals only go to 2000 so I have no need for these . Rob I get the feeling I know that certain person ..lol

Decision made from one Post Office in Victoria???

Hi Al

I have a feeling that your feeling is correct.

Rob

Reply to Langtounlad, Hi Frank, Thanks for your input on this one. Firstly, it was my understanding that these items were unofficial,so if I am wrong then I stand corrected. My intention was not to accuse anyone from Australia Post of doing the wrong thing. As you know,the English language can be ambiguous,so I guess they(the stamps) were official considering the fact that the stamps were used on letters,accepted and hence would be legitimate. The staff concerned were only trying to make good a shortfall so that customers would be able to mail letters at the new 1 dollar rate. I did enquire with the Philatelic Team of Australia Post and they confirmed that about 7,000 of these stamps were printed. Has Gibbons given them an SG Number? So does this make them just labels and not so called rare stamps? I would be grateful for your opinion? The stamps were reported as being a rare item by some.

Hi 22crows

That's correct, if it was authorised then the government printers would have printed off more than enough for the postal service. The Federal Government would not authorise a single post office to print its own stamps, that responsibility belongs to the government printer.

So therefore the stamps were unauthorised as the decision was made from one post office in Victoria without consulting first through the proper channels.

There is a lot of hype about these stamps and people paying a lot of money for them, but it is a waste of money; I was told by a very reliable source that when they are eventually recognised the most they would be catalogued at would be for a few hundred dollars for the set.

Rob

Hi revdoc

The stamps were unofficial, as they were not printed via the normal process, but they are still legal.

Rob

To Rob041256, Hi Rob, Revdoc here,Thanks for your input. Well,would like your opinion and other opinions on these stamps.Are they worth holding onto? Yes, I would agree there was a lot of hype with these stamps. Please see my reply to Frank. I would hesitate now to resell any of them because of the controversy because It would be wrong to try and sell them to someone else claiming they were rare stamps and expect a lot of money in return if the status of the stamps is officially something like a Cinderella stamp. I guess I will just hold on to them and put it down to experience.If you could shed more light on the subject for me I would be grateful, Anyway, I have a collection of them which is what collecting is all about. Thanks, David.

The majority of people I have seen reporting these as rare items are those who either own some of them or those who are trying to sell them. As a casual collector, these have had the feel of a marketing campaign since I first heard of them so I would not buy these at a fraction of the numbers mentioned.
Don

To 51studebaker, Hi Don, Thank you for your input, I have taken all the opinions on board,needless to say I will not try and off load these on any other collector in view of the controversy Thanks for all the advice, Cheers, David.

So which Post Office in Victoria made this decision?

Hi revdoc

The decision is yours whether to hold onto them or to sell them. There will be some who will pay a price for them, nowhere near to the original frenzy though, but there are still buyers. With these particular stamps it is a big gamble whether the value will go up or continue to spiral downwards.

Going by the present trend it doesn't look good for those who had paid thousands for them thinking they had found a nest egg and lost big time.

I doubt these stamps will go up but they will eventually stop at a much lower value unless a value is reached by ACSC or SG. Stanley Gibbons refuses to recognise them as stamps.

You can hold onto them and wait for any real catalogue value to be published and to keep your fingers crossed that you will make a profit, break even, and hope you do not lose money.

These stamps (if one would like to call them that) are not rare as they are not recognised or catalogued to be classified as such; there are no expertising certificates classifying any as rare or even very scarce, and no specialist dealer will touch them with a barge pole, and none are sold at actual stamp actions.

I have only noticed the word "rare" on ebay and from a person I care not mention for fear of sullying this noble forum who is trying to flog them off at exorbitant prices.

They are in a sense a "Cinderella" if one is to use the term to define these "stamps".


From a fellow philatelist (been collecting stamps for 50 years) I agree 100%. Once they are officially classified as stamps and an official value is attached to them I will immediately add a full set of 30 cents and $1 printings to my collection, but it really doesn't look good at the moment.

Keep them if you will, though they are unofficial printings, they are real emergency issues, and they do belong in the QE II collection of decimal issues.

Rob