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Posted 04/02/2018   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dynamode to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am slowly trying to correctly identify and catalogue my early Usa stamps. I have used dudleys tool that 51studebaker added the link to in another post. Have I got this one right. Scott 23 Type IV ?.

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Posted 04/02/2018   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any recuts.
It looks like a Ty II PL 2 B-relief.
That would make it #20.
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Posted 04/02/2018   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks txstamp. I thought the lower line was recut. It looks thicker than the top, and on the dudleys tool picture, the lower uncut line looks thinner than my stamp. I originally identified this as a type II from my scott specialised, but changed my mind after using the tool.
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Posted 04/02/2018   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One useful thing to remember is the following - outside of Top Row Modified T relief stamps from PL 1L, there is no case where the bottom line is recut, but the top is not.

So if you have a Transfer roll #1 A or B relief, and you are sure that the top line is not recut, then the bottom one isn't either.
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Posted 04/02/2018   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dynamode, bottom line recuts are generally less obvious than top-line recuts, especially on stamps that have a strong impression such as yours. Always look at the top line first. And remember that the recuts, both top and bottom, only cover a portion of the frame lines, so if the entire frame line is of uniform thickness (such as your example), then it is not recut.
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Posted 04/02/2018   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great information txstamp and dudley, thanks. Now I know which plate and relief it is, I will attempt to try and position it using

http://www.slingshotvenus.com/Frank...inFrame.html

It could be a while.
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Posted 04/02/2018   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May seem a daft question to you. When I am looking at the plated stamps on slingshotvenus, do I just check the relief B stamps, or do I look at them all ?. From the relief B stamps I have looked at, 29R2 looks a possibility.
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Posted 04/02/2018   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a B relief - that's all you need to look at.
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Posted 04/02/2018   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok thanks very much. My first attempt at plating. The information available here and online for Usa stamps is amazing.
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Posted 04/02/2018   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think 29R2 looks good.
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It looks like your first pick of 29R2 does look like a good match. I did not look at any other than 30R2. Neinken drawings are not very accurate there. Looks good to the Doporto copy. I do not have any copies of 29R2 in the database I am working on.

Be sure to look at my guide dot charts and database.

http://www.stampsmarter.com/feature...Plating.html
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Posted 04/03/2018   06:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks txstamp and dudley for the fast replies, and for making my first attempt fairly easy. Jaxom100 if you need an unoptimised scan for your database let me know where to send it.
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Posted 04/03/2018   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dynamode, send a 120 or 2400 dpi picture to my email. Let me know who you want it attributed to. Then I will post it when it I confirmed position. Thanks.
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Posted 04/03/2018   08:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jaxom100. When I click on send an email from your profile, there is no way to attach a picture
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