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Mnh Zeppelin Set Signed On Back - What Is The Affect On Value For USA Collectors?

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Posted 04/30/2018   04:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ashuber to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have here a MNH zep set signed on the back by a European expert. Does this affect the value of the stamps for US collectors?

Thanks in advance for your help on this issue.

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Posted 04/30/2018   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If a known expert, it would have no negative bearing on my interest in the stamp
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Posted 04/30/2018   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure it's an experts mark and not a collectors mark? Personally writing on the backs of stamps makes them less desirable. Unless it's a well known expert I'd say it decreases value, just my 2¢.
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Posted 04/30/2018   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would avoid purchasing common stamps like Zeps with any kind of mark, expert or not. It is too easy to find a set without marks so my opinion is that it lowers the value.
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Posted 04/30/2018   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Don. In this case, there is no need to mark the stamps.
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Posted 04/30/2018   10:19 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I would avoid purchasing common stamps like Zeps with any kind of mark, expert or not. It is too easy to find a set without marks so my opinion is that it lowers the value.


I agree 100% percent. Unfortunately, the European experts are responsible for much damage to the stamps that I collect.
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Posted 04/30/2018   12:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would not purchase the stamps.
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Posted 04/30/2018   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Note sure, but I'm guessing the PF would not certify them as NH. I think to be NH the gum needs to be truly pristine without even a thumbprint. As I said, I'm not sure, but that would be my guess. So that would mean they get priced as OG - which for the $2.60 stamp is about a $400 difference in Scotts.
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Posted 04/30/2018   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
MNH with backstamps and even fingerprints and with PF certs are listed in Siegel Powersearch.

https://siegelauctions.com/lot_grd....ubmit=Search
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Posted 04/30/2018   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, though I believe they have tightened up on this recently, but good to see.
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Posted 04/30/2018   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would rather have them unsigned also.
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Posted 04/07/2019   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zepman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those look like the C-15 - 18 so expertising helps. A certificate would be better.
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Posted 04/09/2019   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I absolutely hate expertising marks. These experts don't even own the stamps, why should they even mark on property that doesn't belong to them?
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Posted 04/09/2019   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add craigk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I absolutely hate expertising marks. These experts don't even own the stamps, why should they even mark on property that doesn't belong to them?


I agree. But I don't think there was really any other way to "guarantee" stamps back before photo attachments. I believe Stanley Ashbrook's signature runs across many valuable philatelic items.

I wonder if some of those 'experts' owned the stamps themselves and were merely protecting from loss or theft.
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Posted 04/09/2019   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ananthveerappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If they are penciled in, can they be erased without disturbing the gum !


Personally never tried it though ! Got to try on a cheap stamp and see what happens.
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Posted 04/09/2019   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If they are penciled in, can they be erased without disturbing the gum


No, they cannot. The answer to the original question is that any writing or marking on the back of an OG NH stamp decreases its monetary value in today's US market vis-a-vis the same item without such marks, even though historically there might have been legitimate reason for the marks to have been applied.
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