Newfoundand Inand Revenue Stamp - A Lot Going On Here.

I was just looking through a few Inland stamps and came across this item....



Notice the left side of the upper frame line..Looks like a bit of re-entry or extreme engraver slip.


Look at the doubling of the top right side frame line...2 large marks...And what looks like extreme engravers slip.


Picture below at the bottom left hand frame line...Another engraver slip.


Dots on stamp as shown below.


Notice the candy cane design..Right one top lines seem to be a re-entry as compared to the left design.

Did a quick Google search and found a few pictures to compare. The only real consistencies were the dots center top and in the "N". Center top dot may be some sort of alignment mark for the printer.

Interesting stamp, thanks for sharing.

A very interesting stamp indeed!

Thinking out loud here …. about terminology and causation? Are several factors at work here?

The engraver makes the die, which is used to make a transfer roll, which is then used by the platemaker to make the multiple impressions on the plate. The engravers are going to be very careful and professional about their die-making and would have no contact with the actual plate. The die engraver is not engraving onto the plate. Two separate departments. Correct?

In my opinion, the faint extraneous vertical and horizontal lines extending beyond the corners are residual layout lines not burnished out by the platemaker, rather than "engraver slips" – and specifically because they do extend. Is it merely possible the platemaker had a blank plate ruled-off fairly heavily and then entered this position a wee bit low from the top horizontal layout line and left the line there, now appearing as a double top frame line? Note the continued alignment of the top line as is goes off the right side. Also coming up the left side the doubling widens as if the die was rolled-in at a slight tilt to the right.

Is this a relic of hasty wartime production of a revenue stamp not quite needing the quality of a postage stamp? Dunno, just tossing out ideas.
Similarly with the gashes at the upper right and the various dots. Confirming copies would help figure out the details.

Yes, those are definitely horizontal and vertical residual layout lines with guide dot for aligning the entry. When the layout lines are impressed a bit too deeply, they often remain, all or in part.

Die engraving and plate making are definitely different departments, and would be done by different people. They require different skill-sets, with engraving being artistry, and making the plate, more a feat of engineering.

The diagonal slips at upper right are kind of amusingly bad. Those represent some nasty mistake(s) by the person making the plate.

wert,
Interesting, as always and your scans are "great" - Thanks

René

Thanks Rene.
BTW my friend, I will be putting your book in the mail soon..Thanks so much for the borrow.

Thanks for the replies guys..Very helpful.

Robert

from wert:



A pleasure, Robert, and hope it helped

René