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Posted 09/05/2018   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Very strange that this went through the Postal System without going through the cancellation machine.

Robert

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Posted 09/05/2018   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Opinion.
Common, I regularly get uncancelled mail from Canada and the US.
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Posted 09/05/2018   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is yesterday's philatelic mail. Both are #10 envelopes.

In the industrialized nations, they don't seem to care too much about cancelling stamps these days
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Posted 09/05/2018   4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rdavid to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happens regularly, particularly from Canada
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Posted 09/05/2018   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Common, I regularly get uncancelled mail from Canada and the US.



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Common, I regularly get uncancelled mail from Canada and the US.



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Happens regularly, particularly from Canada


That is true guys,

Robert
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Edited by wert - 09/05/2018 5:39 pm
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Posted 09/05/2018   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are used. And this has been talked about here for a long time.

Peter
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Posted 09/05/2018   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While they are used, it still surprises me that with the best and fastest sorting machines that detect the stamp tagging to apply cancellations, they don't. And yet they can read the postal code and often print an individual identification string on the back and in flourescent ink, and sort it to the proper route. Go figure.
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Posted 09/05/2018   10:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OzwaldO to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have brought envelopes back to my small post office for a cancel, I guess these are a type of CTO at this point!
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Posted 09/05/2018   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OzwaldO, Nothing wrong with that, especially if you just need a nicely cancelled used copy of recent stamps for the collection.

Mike
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Edited by No1philatelist - 09/05/2018 10:56 pm
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Posted 09/05/2018   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OzwaldO to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do like to have an authentic representation of used stamps and even have non canceled, even pen cancels and markers! The non canceled are dull looking (in a used collection) but real! It seems so many stamps escape the canceler these days, I'm tempted to cancel or mark them myself but can never bring myself to do it, may-be I could become an agent of the post and make my own fancy cancels, ha-ha!
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Posted 09/06/2018   07:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's annoying that most postal administrations don't bother to cancel outgoing mail. Whenever I send something to another collector I have to go to a post office so they can cancel the stamps with a handstamp, because if I just post them in a postbox they tend to arrive uncancelled.

On the other hand, MaltaPost cancel 99% of local mail (for obvious reasons, since it would be easy to reuse those stamps).
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Posted 09/07/2018   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is my understanding (right or wrong) that the cancelling machines are now triggered by the optical recognition of a stamp design. I heard somewhere that Canada Post did not load all stamp designs into the OCR device so stamps more than five years old don't get cancelled. Whether that is true or not I don't know for sure (but it's a good story and I will stick with it until I hear otherwise).

GJP
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Posted 09/07/2018   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GPortch, If I follow your understanding, then if I want to use older stamps and have a cancellation, I should also put 1 recent stamp on the envelope..
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Posted 09/07/2018   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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now triggered by the optical recognition of a stamp design


gportch...You must be reading my mind..Last night I was thinking why cant they just read stamps, put a value to it and kick out any covers for not sufficient value...I hope Post Canada realizes that they will have to incorporate stamps right back to Scott 1...That would e a lot of input and reading, but I guess it could be done.

Robert
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Posted 09/07/2018   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
so, what's the point in applying tag bars then?
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It is my understanding (right or wrong) that the cancelling machines are now triggered by the optical recognition of a stamp design. I heard somewhere that Canada Post did not load all stamp designs into the OCR device so stamps more than five years old don't get cancelled. Whether that is true or not I don't know for sure (but it's a good story and I will stick with it until I hear otherwise).


This seems far-fetched. Can someone provide actual proof from an official source so this doesn't get spread around as "truth" if it is merely a made-up story. I'll happily apologize if I am proven incorrect, but this sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory.
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